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bageloclock t1_ixfaj5h wrote

No. There is not a both sides argument here. One person drives a multi-ton death trap while the other is on a bike. When you’re operating the multi-ton death trap, it’s on YOU to exert extra caution.

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MrDickford t1_ixfev7f wrote

Yeah thanks that’s an excellent example of exactly the sort of absurd behavior that I complained about in my post.

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bageloclock t1_ixhwf38 wrote

I’m not even erasing the notion that there are bad cyclists out there but car drivers and vehicles have an insanely outsized impact if they are the reckless ones. How can you see these things as 1:1?

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MrDickford t1_ixi2nbc wrote

I don’t think I ever implied they were 1:1. Aggressive drivers are obviously a much bigger problem than aggressive bikers. But you can’t mention aggressive and/or entitled bikers without someone from the biker community showing up to retort that cars are more dangerous to bikers, which implies either than only one of those things can be true, or that it’s ok for bikers to do whatever they want because cars are dangerous.

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