damn. :( That dispatcher needs to be re-trained.

> Numerous sources tell STATter911 there’s concern that acknowledging new 911 errors will hurt Bowser’s efforts to get Karima Holmes re-confirmed as director of the Office of Unified Communications (OUC).

I don’t understand why Bowser is making any effort to keep Holmes in office. Scandals involving these exact kinds of deadly mistakes are the reason she left last time. And yet Bowser brought her back and the same deadly mistakes continue to happen.

I don't know CPR, but I want to learn for situations like this. Is there anything untrained people can do while waiting for an ambulance?

Staying Alive will become your friend.

https://youtu.be/iXcsHoQMGqc

Def take a class. You might be able to encourage your employer to have one at work.

Until then check if they're breathing and if not just do chest compressions, no mouth to mouth. Rotate with others as it's hard to keep up. Fast and hard as long as possible. You're circulating their blood for them.

For any situation where you're waiting for help someone needs to take control and direct people.

Give clear and specific direction to people.

"You (point at person) call 911,"

"You (point at different person) go to the front doors and bring the paramedics here"

"You (point at different person) clear the area so there's room for the paramedics"

"You find an automatic defibrillator"

AEDs are straightforward to use, but watch a video for how to so you're already prepared.

Just learn it.

One misconception people have is that they are injuring someone.

You can put that aside since you do CPR when the person is dead. (Heartbeat has stopped)

So… its not gonna be a poor option vs doing nothing as they continue to have no blood flow.

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You’re not doing good CPR for 20 minutes. Most people have like 5 minutes in them. You need to cycle out and hopefully get ambulance there in under 10 minutes. DC is negligent and a shit show under corrupt AF bowser.

How much funding does our dispatch department get? How could this happen? The people involved should be jailed, truly. I hope they sue DC government for negligence.

20 minutes?! Every minute that a person in cardiac arrest goes without CPR, their mortality rate increases significantly. Every. Single. Minute.

20 minutes of arrest without CPR is in almost no instances compatible with life.

Holmes must have serious dirt on Bowser. Or bowser is incompetent. Take your pick.

Chest compressions. 2” deep, roughly to the tempo/beat of staying alive

911 is a joke in yo town.

I was thinking about that song too.😮‍💨

Why not both?

i really don’t understand why she won the primary so handily

Absolutely ridiculous Holmes is still employed.

>According to multiple sources familiar with the 911 call, an elderly woman calmly said her male roommate was on the floor. The woman said she wanted to call for help before the man ended up on the floor, but he refused. The call-taker asked if the man was conscious. While the caller replied yes, she also said he wasn’t responding when she called out to him. The woman was asked if the only reason help was needed was to get him off the floor. She answered by saying the man needed his vital signs checked and other things. She wasn’t sure if he would be willing to go to the hospital. The caller also mentioned she couldn’t lift him because he was dead weight.

Obviously it seems like there were opportunities to catch this earlier, but I think the reality isn't quite as salacious as the title suggests. We'd need to hear the call to make a full decision.

Not that hard. Take a glance at the opposition.

If you’re doing CPR right, you’re probably going to fracture ribs and/or the sternum.

Medicine can be funny sometimes in that in order to save life & limb, sometimes extraordinary means are necessary. Sometimes they result in additional (but not necessarily further) injuries.

I think the dispatcher heard “lift” and the “yes” to being “conscious,” and assumed he was OK, just unable to get up. The key words were that he did not respond to her (the roommate) when she called out to him. I'm not a dispatcher and I don’t play one on tv, but that would have sent my antenna up and I would have asked her to go over and shake him or something and see if he would respond. If not, send the bus L&S.

As I said in my first post, some retraining is in order here (or changing the existing training on how calls like this are answered).

911 is appalling here. I called them last Sunday because a woman smoked something and was trying to get into my apartment. They didn’t send anyone and after 40 mins I called again but the line was “busy” for about 10. So I waited and asked where the police were. They said they would still be sending them. It took 2 HOURS before the police finally called me and said “do we need to come over still?” At that point the lady had left. So fucking ridiculous that someone trying to enter your house isn’t cause for more concern from dispatchers.

I’m ACLS trained and my trainer would always say, if you did not crack the ribs, you didn’t do it right

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Yes! Do chest compressions. Getting BLS trained is best but even just watching a video is better than nothing. Do not be afraid to hurt someone, if they are arrested, they are already dead.

I don't get it. Did the message not go out to the ambulance or they were not available?