Dear_Art_5845 t1_iu8t0ko wrote on October 29, 2022 at 1:24 PM

Reply to comment by CaptainObvious110 in Metro Exploring Short-Term Fare Hikes And Long-Term Fare Overhauls by Maxcactus

It’s worth noting that if one has children or elderly dependents, it’s not always an option to eliminate a multi-passenger vehicle for a variety of reasons.

CaptainObvious110 t1_iu9bg4t wrote on October 29, 2022 at 3:48 PM

DUH!!!

I'm not talking about those people.

Even when we are talking about elderly dependents you act like Metro Access doesn't exist or Uber or Lyft. It's not as if those elderly folks don't have a way to get where they are going and chances are they don't need to go there every single day either.

I would also say that it's not like those elderly folks don't have friends or other family members that can't possibly help out and take turns taking them where they need to go.

As far as children they make bicycles that can easily accommodate several children. I've seen them in DC myself and would love to see them more often.

https://yubabikes.com/carry-kiddos-as-cargo/

https://www.wired.com/gallery/best-electric-cargo-bikes/ There are ways around what may seem to be a major issue if one is willing to think outside the box.

Granted, I wouldn't recommend the bike when there is snow or ice on the ground. Having done it myself I know that really sucks.

Also, if it's raining I can see that being an issue as well mostly because people drive like retards in the rain as if they have never experienced it before.

Dear_Art_5845 t1_iua9ole wrote on October 29, 2022 at 7:50 PM

So “those people” are a lot of people, and a lot of “those people”, which clearly does not include an an ableist person such as yourself, can’t ride bikes for a range of reasons. Do they also not deserve affordable and far-reaching public transit? Isn’t that the point of this conversation? Have you ever tried to take a 12- and a 14- year old to a doctor appointment at children’s national from any other part of the city on a bike? Or on the Metro? Or walking? Do you want to tell them why they need to take the day off work because it’s gonna be a two hour trip on the bus each way? Would you like to explain to a person who makes $15/hr in that situation why the Uber they need to take from SEDC costs $25?

Widen your perspective a little, yo. Your remarks are showing your privilege.

CaptainObvious110 t1_iuavbyq wrote on October 29, 2022 at 10:29 PM

I gave you transportation options that are outside of the box that people normally think about.

If they don't fit your particular circumstance for whatever reason then they simply don't and that's just fine.

Never did I say that EVERYONE can do them. But I venture to say that MOST probably could.

I don't know I only know a few places I'll be willing at one time

Again whoever is unable to do them then they would know that my post wasn't directed at them so you coming at me with snark is completely and totally uneccesary.

Dear_Art_5845 t1_iub7fb0 wrote on October 30, 2022 at 12:05 AM

You started your post with DUH, and I matched your energy in kind. I did not describe my own circumstances, merely thought about some that do exist and are regularly ignored. I’m merely pointing out that what you think is ‘out of the box’ is actually quite narrow and excludes a lot of people.

CaptainObvious110 t1_iubbnuc wrote on October 30, 2022 at 12:39 AM

Duh because it's painfully obvious that there is no "one size fits all" as people have different circumstances.

It's not about being "ablest" either. Why do I say that? Because a number of people who I know that are elderly or disabled do the very things I mentioned. (Not bikes as they simply can't do it as much as they would like to).

Dear_Art_5845 t1_iubzlmm wrote on October 30, 2022 at 4:08 AM

The word is ableist.

My point is that you are clearly not considering the people you so obviously don't know in your nice bubble.

CaptainObvious110 t1_iuc8ra6 wrote on October 30, 2022 at 5:52 AM

False. Folks that are disabled or elderly can use Metro Access. That's what that service is for. It's not like these people are left stranded with no way to get where they need to go at all.

I mentioned that in my first message to you. But for whatever reason you missed that completely.

Anyway I'm out of troll food so take care.