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internet_emporium t1_iqyl3jh wrote

Ok DC is stupid expensive, but how tf is it above NYC

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ixrequalv t1_iqyo3tx wrote

Because it’s actually not that bad if you aren’t in Manhattan.

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Gitopia t1_iqz7gcv wrote

Is it that much worse in Silver Spring and Alexandria than say Queens and Brooklyn?

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RamekinThief t1_iqzyvhp wrote

Silver Spring and Alexandria aren't isn't included in this calculation for DC, but Queens and Brooklyn are included for NYC, though

EDIT: Turns out Alexandria is part of the DC Core Based Statistical Area. I stand (half) corrected.

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9throwawayDERP t1_ir0lhej wrote

No Silver Spring and Alexandria are included. The study uses the Census Dept's metro areas:

> (cities demarcated by the US Census Bureau’s Core Based Statistical Areas).

Here are some maps: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Core-based_statistical_area

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RamekinThief t1_ir1e0uc wrote

Alexandria is part of the Core Based Statistical Area for DC, you're right, but Silver Spring is part of Silver Spring-Frederick-Rockville.

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ChipKellysShoeStore t1_ir088rr wrote

Queens and Brooklyn are in NYC. Alexandria isn’t in DC

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Gitopia t1_ir0daxe wrote

Yeah if you ignore imaginary lines on a map, they are functionally similar.

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RamekinThief t1_ir1e98u wrote

If you ignore imaginary lines on a map, you're no longer comparing the things that are being compared in this article.

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Cheomesh t1_ir5br1m wrote

Rent is still unaffordable for us plebs with families though, pretty much no matter where you look.

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celj1234 t1_iqyoxf3 wrote

Because NYC is more then manhattan

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internet_emporium t1_iqypc1m wrote

I mean yea, but even the average rent in Harlem is like $2700..

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celj1234 t1_iqyrrs4 wrote

That’s Manhattan….. Also NYC is much less car dependent because of superior public transit.

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moonbunnychan t1_iqyuo97 wrote

Depends on where you are, really. A ton of Queens and even parts of Brooklyn are downright suburban feeling and don't have particularly great transit.

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internet_emporium t1_iqyv17c wrote

Alright here’s the average rent for Brooklyn and Queens, some not Manhattan boroughs for you. There’s also plenty of people in DC without a car. Btw, that “superior public transit” you’re talking about is the best for people living in Manhattan, not the outside boroughs.

https://www.rentcafe.com/average-rent-market-trends/us/ny/brooklyn/

https://www.rentcafe.com/average-rent-market-trends/us/ny/queens/

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foxy-coxy t1_iqzzvdf wrote

There's also the Bronx and Staten Island. NYC is a very big city.

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boogabooga08 t1_iqyw07h wrote

DC is not car dependent at all.

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celj1234 t1_iqywier wrote

In comparison to NYC? Yeah it is

https://www.governing.com/archive/car-ownership-numbers-of-vehicles-by-city-map.html

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boogabooga08 t1_ir0he81 wrote

Car ownership does not equal car dependent. It is a proxy, but there is nuance.

For instance, DC has a much higher median income than NYC. More people can easily afford cars that they do not use.

Of course, if you compare Manhattan to all of DC, Manhattan is more transit friendly and less car dependent. However, if you compare all of NYC to DC, it is very comparable or DC even wins.cthere are giant portions of Brooklyn, Queens, the Bronx, and especially Staten island that are fully car dependent. In DC it is just the very rich parts of NW and the low income areas EOTR that are car dependent.

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suffertunity t1_iqz7jwd wrote

Because it's based on what people spend rather than what things cost. DC may not be more expensive than NYC, but it is more spendy. People in DC tend to live in bigger apartments for example.

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