Submitted by scene_missing t3_1210uq9 in washingtondc

Heads up - It looks like the Cleveland Park library is either hosting or the meeting spot for a far right event sponsored by Brave Books this coming Wednesday. It's going to have white supremacist Jack Posobiec, the woman behind the Libs of TikTok anti-LGBT campaign, and several others.

Sources:

https://humanevents.com/2023/03/23/exclusive-kirk-camerons-freedom-island-tour-to-hit-dc-joined-by-jack-posobiec-libs-of-tiktok

https://bravebooks.us/pages/bb-story-hour

https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/individual/jack-posobiec

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No-Lunch4249 t1_jdjviyv wrote

Obvious rage bait

They just want a bunch of people to show up protesting them and trying to get it cancelled so they can say “this is no different from what we want to do to trans people”

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GenericReditAccount t1_jdjw3ua wrote

🤷‍♂️ How’s about we ignore them? If there are no press or protesters, there will be five attendees max.

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Disused_Yeti t1_jdk48f3 wrote

trolls gonna troll

they'll probably come up with some way to say they were cancelled and sue again

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CannaVet t1_jdk6890 wrote

"...... And then they murdered the little boy because he was different. The end. Wasn't that FUN kids?!"

"Umm...... Did you just tell 5 year olds a story about murder?"

"RELIGIOUS PERSECUTION BAN ALL LIBRARIES EXCEPT PRIVATE CHURCH ONES"

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ZakalweLives t1_jdkaxlg wrote

There needs to be flyers around DC telling folks to ignore this obvious bait. Let them wallow in their hatred by themselves.

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CanaKitty t1_jdklr7s wrote

Shame on the library for hosting this.

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CanaKitty t1_jdkmqqh wrote

Yes, and I get that. But this isn’t just like normal political speech so every side should get access. This is people who do blatant hate speech and the library should not give a forum for that.

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DancesWithTreetops t1_jdm3ecn wrote

Well if anyone wants to fuck up some white supremacists, they are advertising where they’re going to be.

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FST_Gemstar t1_jdm9dj7 wrote

It is not a library event. A group reserved a meeting room for a book talk. Anyone can do this. It is not an endorsement from the library.

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borneoknives t1_jdsnc4t wrote

FYI DCPL is not hosting them. They booked a meeting room

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robotnique t1_jdwio5u wrote

Please be aware that the library IS NOT ENDORSING NOR OTHERWISE INVOLVED OTHER THAN PROVIDING THE SPACE.

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Due to the way the library offers its services, we can't turn down any public meetings so long as they abide by the rules and regulations as delineated on our website. Ergo the staff at Cleveland Park would be going against our mission of being open and available to everybody so long as they aren't indulging in hate speech or bringing out torches.

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robotnique t1_jdwiym8 wrote

We don't have the ability to refuse Kirk Cameron use of the space so long as he abides by library rules. So long as he is just doing a public reading from his book and doesn't start to actively proselytize while on the building campus our hands are tied.

Lucky for me I don't work at Cleveland Park and as such won't have to deal with this awful meeting, but I feel for the staff who do.

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scene_missing OP t1_jdwzxgs wrote

Your library rules state that partons are bannable for "Engaging in bullying as defined by the Youth Bullying Prevention Act of 2012, effective September 14, 2012 (D.C. Law 19-167; 59 DCR 7820)." https://www.dclibrary.org/behavior

When I look up that statute, it includes bullying race, gender identity, and sexual orientation. Libs of Tiktok and Jack Posobiec bully for these on a daily basis. By your own rules, should they not be barred from DCPL with a category 3 violation for 1 month?

https://ohr.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/ohr/page_content/attachments/YouthBullyingPreventionAct_Final.pdf

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robotnique t1_jdx5ens wrote

By our rules, they'd have to do it on our premises in order to bar them for this behavior.

Don't get me wrong, I want nothing more than for Kirk Cameron to keep his clown car packed up and detour around DC, but I do want people to understand that the staff at the library have our hands tied when it comes to this.

It would take a decision from high-up administration, as in at the level of the Director, for us to turn them away, and would likely require the media relations people to coordinate with the Mayor's office to prepare for the tizzy conservatives would throw over it.

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OnlyHunan t1_je33v28 wrote

It would be terrible if the parking lots were completely full prior to the time that they would need to arrive and set up, encouraging them. Only to find the Library deserted of patrons.

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OnlyHunan t1_je352g7 wrote

Headline: "DC Public Library forced by 1st Amendment to accommodate right-wing radicals that abuse 1st Amendment."

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