I'm only saying experiences that depend on access to cheap real estate are harder to come by here, and one of the trade-offs of choosing to live in an expensive city is having to go to the burbs sometimes to experience them, just like one has to go to the burbs to go to Ikea, pavilion-style concert venues, a Korean spa, etc. Whether the experience of sitting in a coffee shop is worth the trip is will vary from person to person, obviously.

That said, I do sometimes bike out to Vigilante if the weather's nice. It's about a half hour's ride from my house, and it is, indeed, a nice place to hang out.