Submitted by oxidadapanda t3_113o0wz in washingtondc
Adventurous_Gap_5946 t1_j8rd5cj wrote
Reply to comment by joegant in MPD Officer often fed information to Proud Boys leader by oxidadapanda
Please tell me that’s not true. This city is falling apart and she’s nowhere to be found.
celj1234 t1_j8rj9c5 wrote
The city is not falling apart lmao
FlimFlamMagoo728 t1_j8scii7 wrote
Seriously, we have some problems (which, everyone everywhere all the time has problems of one type or another) but in the grand scheme of things people living in DC have it better than most Americans and objectively like 99% of the rest of the world.
Adventurous_Gap_5946 t1_j8rkug5 wrote
Y’all are crazy if you can’t see it. I’m born & raised in dc, and was here in the 90s when shit was BAD. This city is on its way back in that direction. Or do you consider daily carjackings and murders to be A-Ok?
celj1234 t1_j8rmy2l wrote
Been here for 30 plus years myself. The city is not “falling apart” esp in comparison to other US cities
justmahl t1_j8rok47 wrote
If you're paying attention you would notice that the same rise in crime is happening across the country. I'm pretty sure it's pandemic related but this country doesn't invest enough into mental health research to really dig into that.
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OctoberCaddis t1_j8scpjn wrote
The fact that increases in crime are occurring elsewhere by no means requires that we tolerate them here.
There are homeless in other cities, should we abandon all efforts to address the problem in DC?
justmahl t1_j8sfxt7 wrote
Where in my statement did you see me suggest we tolerate it?
My point is that the city is not falling apart and the crime issue is something that if we actually want to address it, versus just looking tough on crime and kicking the can down the road, we need to recognize that there are some commonalities across this country and we should try and start there. But there's very little motivation for that.
From what I see, most of the people complaining just want elected leaders to "look" like they're doing something. They are totally fine with crime existing as long as it's not in front of their doorstep.
joegant t1_j8socph wrote
Really? Haven’t noticed it in NoVA or MD
justmahl t1_j8sz87c wrote
Ahh that solves it. I was waiting to see if you noticed it random person. Must be made up.
joegant t1_j8u27ej wrote
Fairfax has 1.14 million residents DC has just over 670,000
Fairfax had 20 homicides in 2022 DC had 203 homicides
Fairfax also had 20 homicides in 2021 DC had 226
Fairfax had 15 homicides in 2020 DC had 198
Fairfax had 14 homicides in 2019 DC had 166
Look it up…
FlimFlamMagoo728 t1_j8scvvl wrote
Compare the numbers on carjackings and murders to 1993, I'll wait.
Adventurous_Gap_5946 t1_j8sdpqn wrote
Lol I’m willing to bet you just spent the last hour between your two comments doing just that, so I’ll pass.
FlimFlamMagoo728 t1_j8s2srh wrote
This city is objectively better in just about every measureable way since the 90s
Most_kinds_of_Dirt t1_j8spqxc wrote
DC crime stats 1992-2022:
Category | 1992 | 2002 | 2012 | 2017 | 2022 |
---|---|---|---|---|---|
Homicide | 443 | 262 | 88 | 116 | 201 |
Sex Abuse | 215 | 262 | 263 | 295 | 158 |
Assault w/ a dangerous weapon | 8,568 | 4,854 | 2,356 | 1,859 | 1,383 |
Robbery | 7,459 | 3,731 | 4,262 | 2,179 | 2,064 |
Violent Crime (total) | 16,685 | 9,109 | 6,969 | 4,449 | 3,806 |
Burglary | 10,721 | 5,167 | 3,694 | 1,530 | 1,042 |
Motor Vehicle Theft | 9,118 | 9,168 | 2,863 | 2,416 | 3,730 |
Theft * | 30,663 | 20,903 | 21,960 | 24,800 | 18,556 |
Arson | ? | 109 | 36 | 5 | 4 |
Property Crime (total) | 50,502 | 35,347 | 28,553 | 28,751 | 23,332 |
All Crime (total) | 67,187 | 44,456 | 35,522 | 33,200 | 27,138 |
* Theft / Larceny was reported under a single category until the mid 00's, but two separate categories in later years (Theft from Motor Vehicle and Theft (Other)). I've combined the two categories here for direct comparison between the reports.
Data for other years is available here:
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TheMegaBenson t1_j8rhlou wrote
How is it falling apart?
9throwaway2 t1_j8rnluu wrote
its not. shit seems to have peaked last summer/fall. things are slowly (too slowly, but still) getting cleaned up. now inner downtown is a bit dead since WFH is a thing, but most other things, including crime, are trending in the right direction.
the one exception seems to be bad driving with fake plates.
TheMegaBenson t1_j8ron15 wrote
Fucking bad drivers are a plague.
waldrop02 t1_j8turnz wrote
They feel like there’s more crime happening
Acoustic_Ginger t1_j8rll3i wrote
nah, where the city is getting worse (and it's not falling apart), her policies are the problem
Formergr t1_j8sk2by wrote
> her policies are the problem
Let's not let the Council off the hook either, though.
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