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swampoodler t1_j9zc128 wrote

Mate, the individual behavior of the general populace is a small factor compared to what the corporations spew out and how much of an impact the luxuries of the top 10% income earners have on this poor Earth.

The problem is at the top, not the bottom.

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NPRjunkieDC t1_j9zca80 wrote

That's an easy excuse, as in not my problem . I'm probably in the top 10%, but do what I can .

The problem is not the top earners . It's what you do with your money and in your daily life

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swampoodler t1_j9zdpj6 wrote

Thanks for clarifying your personality.

And no, you’re wrong. The data exist. The top earners literally produce the same amount of CO2 emissions as the rest of us combined.

https://www.statista.com/chart/26904/estimated-global-co2-emission-share-by-income-groups/

”The world's richest ten percent are responsible for an estimated 47 percent share of global CO2 emissions.”

This level of discrepancy tracks within the US as well.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/rich-americans-have-higher-carbon-footprints-than-other-wealthy-people/

”In North America, the top 10 percent of people by income produce nearly 73 tons of carbon dioxide per person annually. At the other end of the income spectrum, however, the bottom 50 percent of North Americans emit 10 tons per person annually.”

A special link just because I want to believe you actually are a subscriber to NPR:

https://www.npr.org/2022/11/09/1135446721/billionaires-carbon-dioxide-emissions

”Very rich people emit huge and unsustainable amounts of carbon and have an outsized influence over our economy."

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cogscidude t1_j9ziu2b wrote

Most people in this subreddit are in the world's richest top ten percent. We are the one's responsible

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swampoodler t1_j9zjic0 wrote

https://www.businessinsider.com/how-much-wealthy-middle-class-poor-make-income-per-year-2021-12?amp

”Someone in the top 10% of the global income distribution makes $122,100 per year.”

https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/fact/table/DC,US/PST045221

”Per capita income in past 12 months (in 2021 dollars), 2017-2021, Washington DC: $63,793”

The more you know.

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swampoodler t1_j9zxye9 wrote

Thanks for the input!

Larger point will still stand though: those with higher incomes contribute more to emissions. Both the global top 10% and the top 10% within the country when compared to the rest.

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AhhAGoose t1_ja0c5ol wrote

Is it really only $122k a year that makes someone top 10%?! So like, a GS13 is basically in the top 10%

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sl8rfan2 t1_j9zf5kg wrote

What an insufferable attitude.

Edit: sweet edit. You completely missed the point.

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studio28 t1_j9zn5qp wrote

Its like a bystander effect diffusion of responsibility blind spot. I think that's the worst part of all this. People just say fuck it and fuck you"... the top ten percent. It's not my responsibility? What help am I gonna do?"

Hiding behind a study showing 100 companies were responsible for 70% of greenhouse gas. It's like so what? Avoid those industries and mitigate the results! 🤦‍♂️

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swampoodler t1_ja0097d wrote

I’m sorry, but climate change isn’t going to be stopped until we tax the decadence out of the rich.

“Taylor Swift topped the list at more than 170 flights since January, totalling up to 15.9 days in the air, and 8,293.54 metric tons of CO2 emissions—that’s equivalent to all the emissions from the energy used by over 1,000 homes in the U.S. for a year.”

”The average person produces about 7 metric ton of CO2 annually. Meanwhile, celebrities have emitted an average of more than 3,300 metric tons from their private jets alone so far this year.”

https://time.com/6208632/celebrities-climate-impact-private-jets-yachts/

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studio28 t1_ja011ia wrote

Just sayin that's no reason not to do what we can. Am I mistaken in saying we're sort of in a race against this thing and whatever more time we can give ourselves the better? Turning off your xbox automatically apparently saves two trees worth of CO2. I don't see how we make a different choice but to reduce.

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swampoodler t1_ja035tc wrote

>Turning off your xbox…

Flapping your wings while the plane crashes.

I agree that it’s good to use less as an individual, but I’m saying it literally won’t matter so long as the rich keep doing what they’re doing.

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NPRjunkieDC t1_j9znodt wrote

Individual responsibility is powerful. You can convince others, etc . That's also politics . The power of the vote .

But if you feel helpless, then everything can go to he'll.

But on here fuck the 10% and everything is the boomers fault .

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