TooSwang t1_j91ggge wrote on February 18, 2023 at 2:42 PM

Reply to comment by Deanocracy in Armed Robbery Outside Eliot-Hine Middle School by AndreTippettPoint

This probably isn’t the most welcome sentiment especially in this sub, but I think “frustration with the Justice system” is a little generous to people up in arms about crime. Crime is down. You can go to MPD’s statistics if you want to check. Motor vehicle thefts are the one thing unambiguously up, and that’s almost certainly that MPD is not using the tools at its disposal to stop that - if you think it’s hard to track hundreds of stolen vehicles I would encourage you to speak to literally any law enforcement. I think we can always pull one-off incidents and point to them as alarming but there is ample research showing public perceptions of crime have virtually no relationship with actual trends. When people talk about their “feeling” of safety, they are much more often talking about how they’ve let themselves be whipped into a panic by pro-police voices in politics, the media, and their communities, than they actually are talking about a truly felt threat to their safety. So no, I don’t think the source of frustrations is about minor differences in sentencing, I think it’s something else entirely.

OctoberCaddis t1_j91w9ae wrote on February 18, 2023 at 4:37 PM

Crime is not down. A reading of crime stats with an intended outcome might tell you violent crime is down, but that’s only because carjacking is counted as auto theft in the nonviolent category.

Overall crime is up 20%, according to a Georgetown crime apologist.

TooSwang t1_j91wrmb wrote on February 18, 2023 at 4:40 PM

Carjacking and motor vehicle theft are separate crimes nimrod, they’re literally broken out separately

OctoberCaddis t1_j97873z wrote on February 19, 2023 at 8:03 PM

https://mpdc.dc.gov/page/district-crime-data-glance

Sure they are

TooSwang t1_j97b7i8 wrote on February 19, 2023 at 8:24 PM

Carjacking, when someone has their car stolen while they are in it, is a violent crime included under robbery, not a property crime included under motor vehicle theft. This is explained where they say how the terms are defined. For the good of your family and neighbors please learn to read, I worry knowing there are folks like you in the area living in such an illiterate fog.

https://code.dccouncil.gov/us/dc/council/code/sections/23-1331

“(4) The term “crime of violence” means aggravated assault; act of terrorism; arson; assault on a police officer (felony); assault with a dangerous weapon; assault with intent to kill, commit first degree sexual abuse, commit second degree sexual abuse, or commit child sexual abuse; assault with significant bodily injury; assault with intent to commit any other offense; burglary; carjacking; armed carjacking; child sexual abuse; cruelty to children in the first degree; extortion or blackmail accompanied by threats of violence; gang recruitment, participation, or retention by the use or threatened use of force, coercion, or intimidation; kidnapping; malicious disfigurement; manslaughter; manufacture or possession of a weapon of mass destruction; mayhem; murder; robbery; sexual abuse in the first, second, or third degrees; use, dissemination, or detonation of a weapon of mass destruction; or an attempt, solicitation, or conspiracy to commit any of the foregoing offenses.”