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long_short_alpha t1_j65f34g wrote

Reply to comment by IllustriousSignal575 in To Hindenburg & other interested parties: my advice? Invest in some good home security. by BlueRidgeGamer

This is why nobody should own a gun

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IllustriousSignal575 t1_j65fbeg wrote

Sorry, but if multiple people show up at my residence trying to fight theyll leave in bags if theyre lucky, buckets if they arent.

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long_short_alpha t1_j65hdav wrote

If professionals want to take you out, you wont die at home. It will be an "accident" and you will be out before you even know that they were there.

Come on? you really think an average joe with a few guns can do sonething? For example they just need a little bit of poisson an a doorknob or anything else that you touch, and thats it...

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IllustriousSignal575 t1_j65ighb wrote

Far from average joe when it comes to firearms related anything, try again. Id also like to point out that I spend the majority of my time at home, where there are 7 security cameras (half acre) that alert to my phone and record if so much as a bird lands in my yard. So no, I dont think a single person will be able to get close to me. When they do, they will be sadly awakened with either a PS90 or 37mm because those are my two favorites in my arsenal. I actually encourage someone to try, though, as I live in Florida....where the cops actually applaud you if you shoot and kill a home intruder on live television.

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long_short_alpha t1_j65jcai wrote

Hahahs, you are so naive... You dont leave for groceries? Never for a drink in a bar? As i said, just a little Nowitschok on you car grip and when you come back to the parking lot and its over...

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IllustriousSignal575 t1_j65kpl2 wrote

Groceries....on a base with pretty strict guidance on who they allow on due to their mission set.

Bar... doesn't happen because I dont drink.

Car handle....you know cars have security cameras too, right?

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long_short_alpha t1_j65lxza wrote

Just have to repeat myself, you are so naive....

They are comming for secret agents, spies, etc...but sure, they will have problems with a weed smoking veteran in Alabama gif

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grimkhor t1_j65g1v1 wrote

That's what all muricans say but stats are that you either shoot yourself, someone random by accident or commit a crime at some point. Reality is countries without guns have less crime and are way safer. Source: I'm living in one of those countries.

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IllustriousSignal575 t1_j65ghr3 wrote

You cant compare your puny country that is smaller than at least one of our states, to our entire country.

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grimkhor t1_j65h7jf wrote

I can and I did as those stats are per 100k people and not landmass. So stats say you're wrong. You know what I even provide a source.

https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/gun-deaths-by-country

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Mediocre-Ad1831 t1_j65mwop wrote

Nice bias there, first stating that other countries are safer without guns and then bringing stats that show gun deaths by country

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grimkhor t1_j65nvkw wrote

Later in the conversation I posted a statistic about crimes as the other guy went down the same regarded rabbit hole without doing their homework and actually knowing the stat. Just read it. I don't wanna start a second conversation that ends in a way that we should compare USA to third world countries only.

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IllustriousSignal575 t1_j65hojn wrote

You brought your own source, and the majority of that list......owning a firearm or majority of firearms is illegal in those countries and most of the ones that you can on that list.....its illegal to carry outside of your residence without a specific permit.

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grimkhor t1_j65j3wo wrote

Don't start being pedantic if you didn't do your homework buddy because there's a source button on the site. It's not my source it's a reliable source.

https://i.imgur.com/ZMguSU4.png

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>owning a firearm or majority of firearms is illegal in those countries and most of the ones that you can on that list.....its illegal to carry outside of your residence without a specific permit.

Correct that's the point. If multiple people show up at your residence trying to fight they show up with guns and shoot you. If they show up in any other first world country they just rob you because neither one has a gun.

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IllustriousSignal575 t1_j65jv8z wrote

Your argument was that countries "without guns" are safer. You provided a source where most of the countries have very strict gun laws and were on the top of the list for gun related deaths. I dont even know where you're trying to go with your argument now because you make zero sense. Stop talking to me.

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grimkhor t1_j65kpiy wrote

Ok I listen which first world country is above USA. We can also look at crime which USA is also unreasonably high among first world countries.

https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/crime-rate-by-country

But as long as both you and the criminals have guns. You just have to be a badass to shoot all the criminals img

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IllustriousSignal575 t1_j65l1hh wrote

Ohhhh now you wanna backpedal and change it to just first world countries. Stfu dude

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grimkhor t1_j65liqa wrote

You really want to say that USA is more of a third world country and we should apply the standard of government corruption and failed states to USA instead of the one you would expect from a first world country. OK if you want compare USA to third world countries I agree as a third world country USA is not that bad. I'm actually shocked that you think it's backpaddling because USA IS a first world country what comparison did you expect.

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IllustriousSignal575 t1_j65lpn0 wrote

Hey bro, I have just been arguing with you based on the exact words you have spoken. Its not my fault youre really bad at debating. You should practice your vocabulary next time before you get in an argument. Stop talking to me

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grimkhor t1_j65m8m2 wrote

Actually if you argue based on exact words that makes you a pedantic fail and very bad at making arguments. You should be ashamed to represent your country in this really regarded way. I actually wish that you really think about the content of the words said and not about exact word usage so you might next time not look as regarded and might add something to the content of the discussion.

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IllustriousSignal575 t1_j65mrs1 wrote

See, thats where youre wrong. If I was arguing your argument, I would have had a source that was broken down by 1st world countries. You didnt do that, so thats all the Info I used to counter argue. Thats how debates go, you fucked up with your words and sources, I saw your bluff, I utilized your bluff to make this argument go exactly how it went, and then I pointed your bluff out.

Good day, sirimg

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grimkhor t1_j65nhtf wrote

This is absolutely regarded img you have eyes img do I need to give you a list of first world countries or what?

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IllustriousSignal575 t1_j65nwpp wrote

You have google. Do I need to give you proper sources for your arguments so you dont have to look like a dumbass and try to backpedal?

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RockmanMike t1_j65izt7 wrote

Veteran here; I need one in case I have to break a foot in a mothaf*ckers ass if ish hits the fan. The police are minutes (even hours) away when you need them in seconds.

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long_short_alpha t1_j65otur wrote

Thats the difference, i live in a safe country, where i cant think of a situation, where my family or me every needed police.....

Edit: ...or a gun.

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