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Unknown9129 t1_iy64tjp wrote

Apple supporting the CCP all the way.

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hawehawe t1_iy66h5n wrote

No CCP no Iphone

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Ryth88 t1_iy6g83n wrote

India would likely be happy to move their factories over. I'm surprised more of the manufacturing industry hasn't been taken to India with all of the stuff China has been doing in the past decade.

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Ohmygosh0 t1_iy72lys wrote

The moment Apple moves it's industry out of China, the moment Apple gets cut from the Chinese market.

Apple gets around $80B or 20% of its revenue from China.

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Ryth88 t1_iy74mn7 wrote

And that's why the entire world bends the knee to cpp unfortunately.

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Ohmygosh0 t1_iy8ulfv wrote

Yeah, the Chinese market is huge and relatively wealthy; it's a massive weapon in the hand if the CCP, more so than their place as an industrial hub.

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iunctus5 t1_iyagk7l wrote

And this won't happen like it does in the eu or USA where there is a process. In China they can ban something overnight.

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hawehawe t1_iy6hfnz wrote

Doubt that that will be as easy as it looks.. Foxcon is a well oiled and well established mega producer for iphones with a huge cluster of supporting industry.

Possoble in India, sure. But will take years to build up.

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WendysFryCook OP t1_iy6rigs wrote

Does anyone remember the suicides from Foxconn Apple plant years ago? If I remember correctly they had to install nets outside to catch jumpers.

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astuteobservor t1_iy71yrt wrote

10 to 20 years, without the famous Indian red tape. Never with Indian red tape.

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Chgralac73 t1_iy8nazz wrote

the thing is, you cant move your factories out of China, 51% is owned by China. you can leave and build new factories in India/Vietnam, but forget China letting your employees leave to train in the personnel in other countries

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BullishBearishBiz t1_iy9a9cl wrote

Yeaaaah you know it’s estimated to be a 10-20 year decoupling from China for Apple right? It’s a bit more than flipping a switch, and India is in no way shape or form at all capable or ready today, not to mention India sided with Russia so the potential for more geopolitical fuckery doesn’t actually change much.

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Look_Antique t1_iy7yz70 wrote

Bro we don't even have uninterrupted power supply here half the time.

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hyldemarv t1_iy90a35 wrote

India cannot produce in volume to the quality required and it will take decades to get permits to do anything through the world-leading indian bureaucracy.

China represents the future in tech. Whatever the faults of the CCP, they are engineers, things gets done in China, years faster other countries will do it.

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token-eater t1_iy6amcd wrote

Apple is in a shit show rn

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hangem689 t1_iy7l23t wrote

They support the CCP but not Elon’s twitter LOL

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SamsoniteAG1 t1_iy8b4nw wrote

"Tyranny over free speech" - apple

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hangem689 t1_iy8jgsf wrote

“Give me freedom or give me death” —William Wallace probably

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WallStreetBets181 t1_iy74hib wrote

This free speech suppression will really hurt Apple in the long run… supporting communist government and not individuals is a bad bad bad move!

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WendysFryCook OP t1_iy79s8w wrote

Do you think Karen gives a shit about the CCP and who makes her iPhone? As long as Starbucks has her high sugar syrup in stock and she can play candy crush waiting to pick up her kids her life is perfect.

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WallStreetBets181 t1_iy7a0h2 wrote

When she can’t tweet anymore, can’t post anymore, can’t argue with people on the net anymore she’s gonna care.

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MindlessPotatoe t1_iy8ouls wrote

Yea, unless you convince your regarded friends to start paying attention to societal issues, nothing will change. The average American is a plankton when it comes to stuff like this. Want to move them? Shine a light lol

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cannibalvampirefreak t1_iy76i7r wrote

Yes of course. The benevolent invisible hand of capitalism will right this evil communist wrong.

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MindlessPotatoe t1_iy8p0xp wrote

Governmental intervention is not the invisible hand at work.

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cannibalvampirefreak t1_iya7fxw wrote

Neither is it the sound of one hand clapping. Whatever. How is this relevant to free speech suppression possibly hurting Apple? They are a business, and standing up for free speech hurts their business in China. Period. Until there is some sort of government action elsewhere such as in the US, e.g. binding resolutions about use of Apple products in government, official censure (not just some pissy little letter from the FCC commissioner about the Voice of America propaganda stream), something that will cost them tens of billions of dollars, because that's how much they're taking in by making their phones with Chinese slaves and selling them to the 96 million party members with high paying jobs who can afford them. They will keep doing what they are doing. Why? Because, as part of the American system, Apple is required by law to do what is best for their shareholders, which means sticking it to dissidents and foreign media, and helping them get arrested or killed if that is what's required. This is nothing new, our glorious Market Capitalist system was basically built to oppress people and extract wealth.

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mlamping t1_iy6dmcp wrote

When are we going to realize we need to treat china like North Korea?

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WendysFryCook OP t1_iy6etdh wrote

Probably never because China runs our entire economy unfortunately

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Hygro t1_iy7broy wrote

It doesn't, but our reliance and their pullback has resulted in the bulk of our inflation. We'd survive a total divestment, if you don't mind ripping some hairs with the bandaid.

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WendysFryCook OP t1_iy7c3us wrote

It would take years just to build the infrastructure to begin supporting ourselves. We'd be fucked

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captainmcfuckface t1_iy8dt94 wrote

not really. we turned up the industry to produce more than the world combined in under 2 years with fewer resources and way less capital during WW2.

We currently have thousands of vacant factories and hungry rust belt communities eager to jump on such a move. It’d be an easier transition than you think. A few years of annoyance and stagnation and what not, but considering we can get most anything from somewhere else, it’d for the largest part be a management scramble and doubling of costs until we are back on line.

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hyldemarv t1_iybw6lp wrote

Leaving crumbs on the table for workers is Heathen Communism and simply not The American Way.

One cannot easily change Culture! Even here and now people are not advocating for being independent of China, they want to dominate it.

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Chgralac73 t1_iy8uvxr wrote

US customer is unable to live frugally, and if they have to its a depression.

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DependentLow6749 t1_iy7dbsj wrote

I mean not really. The country is suffering financially at the moment and western institutional investors have largely divested. They still control a lot of production, which allows them to dictate certain terms, but not nearly as much as they used to.

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zer165 t1_iy97jmx wrote

Hmmmmmmm, there was this guy with orange skin and funny hair that talked about this all the time. People hated that he said this in the US, though. Reddit's cognitive dissonance is so powerful.

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Chgralac73 t1_iy8uduc wrote

because US could not defeat North Korea in a land war courtesy of neverending Chinese troops. neither could US defeat Vietnam courtesy of neverending Chinese troops.

Kissinger realized that and so he traded away US factories, to avoid confrontation with Chinese military, on the idiot idea that giving US manufacturing base to China is somehow gonna turn them democratic. well 50 years later, tough sht Sherlock

In a land war, man power is everything.

still China has become a paper dragon. their entire military is 1.3 mil. thats not that much and if they try to invade Taiwan with 300k-500k men, its gonna be the biggest fail since KamiKaze

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Diamond_HandedAntics t1_iy9s0x4 wrote

China’s military tops 2 million now. That’s the largest on the world. Don’t know why you think that isn’t much lol

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[deleted] t1_iy6j845 wrote

Now’s a good time to use the 200b and build in America.. if they were smart.img

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Environmental-Ad4090 t1_iy6xf21 wrote

Nah they should manufacture in Mexico

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BleachedTaint t1_iy7q0pm wrote

I’ve always thought the US should try to manufacture more in central and South America. It would be good for everyone.

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WendysFryCook OP t1_iy6r9lh wrote

American labor is far too expensive. Fast food can't pay employees $15 an hour to work.

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Joe_mother124 t1_iy6ghyj wrote

They can’t restrict child labor tho 😔

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RequirementRequired t1_iy7cab1 wrote

That's not very cash money of you, AAPL.

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java1616 t1_iy7doed wrote

Why are they limiting air drop? Would this be because they’ve also disabled or are heavily monitoring WiFi?

Can someone explain this?

Videos and pictures are the two most often used items transferred when using airdrop. It uses a direct peer to peer Bluetooth distribution model. This leads me to believe that they simply want to limit videos.

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BleachedTaint t1_iy7q3mc wrote

Imagine being able to airdrop to everyone in a crowd, and then that airdrop gets sent out like a ripple all across the city. Works great for protests, right?

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