Submitted by Such-Combination5046 t3_yhsoyx in wallstreetbets
olek2507 t1_iugmxf9 wrote
Reply to comment by OpeningTruck2212 in Brazil Election Live Updates: Bolsonaro vs. Lula by Such-Combination5046
And do you see a pattern with socialistic governments? The result is always the same. Cuba, North korea, China, USSR, poland, Ukraine, Slovakia, Venezuela, Republic of Congo, Czech Republic, Vietnam, etc. Communism is just a theory like utopia, put it in power and governments always act the same, because with absolute power, corrupts absolutely.
It's not my story, it's the people of Venezuela's story.
OpeningTruck2212 t1_iugn7ob wrote
I believe in the free market, but I also believe in social welfare programs as well. Funny how you name those countries, but not Finland, Sweden, Switzerland, Norway, and etc.
olek2507 t1_iugnwqi wrote
I put etc, which you failed to notice. I bet you think those Scandinavian countries are democratic socialist as well, repeating what Bernie touts.
OpeningTruck2212 t1_iugopi6 wrote
Do you know what Democratic socialism is? Are all professions paid the same? Does government make business decisions?
olek2507 t1_iugoxwo wrote
Do you understand the difference between a market economy and democratic socialist economy?
OpeningTruck2212 t1_iugpg8d wrote
Yes I know. SD = achieving social welfare programs through taxes and other things government can decide on while ME- is through more like entrepreneurship, basically free market
olek2507 t1_iugpkt4 wrote
And we all know when you have a free market, you give citizens more options without government red tape, free to create their own destiny and better opportunities to thrive. Depend too much on the government and opportunities dissipate.
OpeningTruck2212 t1_iugoliu wrote
I’m not sure to be honest, but I’m saying if we all pay taxes, why can’t that go to the citizens? What’s wrong with providing healthcare to lower income folks? We all pay taxes the money should be spend on citizens
olek2507 t1_iugopw8 wrote
The issue is you can't trust the government with that amount of money, most of it goes to their sponsors pockets and whatever is left goes to the people.
OpeningTruck2212 t1_iugoztt wrote
I agree, that what pisses me off, but if we hold them accountable. Let me ask you this do you support in those services assuming the element of theft and corruption is eliminated?
olek2507 t1_iugpbrr wrote
I'm having trouble understanding the wording of your statement. Especially the last part. Can you elaborate? Lack of accountability and weak leadership is 2 biggest problems in governments all over the world. If politicians knew there were consequences for their actions, we would be living in a different world.
OpeningTruck2212 t1_iugpr27 wrote
I’m saying that they need to be held accountable
olek2507 t1_iugpuri wrote
Not just in Venezuela, but all over the world.
olek2507 t1_iugorpg wrote
Scandinavian countries are market economies, not democratic socialist.
OpeningTruck2212 t1_iugp3wi wrote
Which I believe that’s the right thing.
olek2507 t1_iugpfxc wrote
Ok so enough of spreading of this democratic socialist bs, it's not true and the dutch minister of finance has explicitly stated they are a market economy, not a democratic socialist one.
OpeningTruck2212 t1_iugnchm wrote
Love how silly you are down arrowing me. Yet you cocksuckers claim you guys want free speech.
olek2507 t1_iugo0ay wrote
You're also free to down vote me as well. Would that mean you don't believe in free speech as well if you down voted me? Lol
OpeningTruck2212 t1_iugornf wrote
I only did it when I saw you did.
olek2507 t1_iugp1rl wrote
So you're incapable of independent thought, just follow others around, even those you don't agree with. Gotcha, sheep. You played yourself.
OpeningTruck2212 t1_iugpk8z wrote
I just did it cause you did. You’re whole family is sheep. Don’t call me that little Goof
olek2507 t1_iugnqfv wrote
What does down voting you have to to do with free speech? It doesn't censor you like the Venezuelan government does and you ar3 spreading misinformation blaming the corruption of the government on us sanctions when they don't block food or medicines. This is common facts and easily found out with a simple search, yet you still peddle it. If you truly knew Venezuelans, you would know they all know their economic woes have nothing to do with the usa.
OpeningTruck2212 t1_iugo466 wrote
Obviously you’re out of it, I’m not saying their government are saint. They are in power and will do anything to stay in power. But you forget to mention the US sanctions, so that has nothing to do it? Give me break
olek2507 t1_iugohms wrote
I just mentioned twice that the embargo's don't apply to food and medicine. What i didnt state before, commie, is that the sanctions are towards the corrupt government officials not the people.
OpeningTruck2212 t1_iugou9n wrote
But it’s not an embargo, it’s sancations. Two different things
olek2507 t1_iugp59a wrote
Sanctions don't apply to food and medicine, look it up. Public electricity and water is stolen by the government to sell to highest bidder. This is what people living in Venezuela, consistently state.
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