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DoutFooL OP t1_j51e3wf wrote

Reply to comment by ShenanigansCommence in Possibly the most important documentary out right now by DoutFooL

I would say the only system to believe in is “to do unto others.” all other belief systems are inherently problematic and the systems Tate and other opportunists offer are even worse. That’s the point - full stop.

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ShenanigansCommence t1_j51fp1j wrote

As you said all belief systems are problematic, what problems in other belief systems make them any better than his ideology ? Religions are incredibly problematic, do you want to vilify anyone who is part of a religion that you don't agree with ?

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DoutFooL OP t1_j51gl5j wrote

Some beliefs are more harmful (outwardly) than others, no?

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ShenanigansCommence t1_j51gt6a wrote

Such as ?

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DoutFooL OP t1_j51hczm wrote

The ones displayed by Tate in this very video(duh, no?)

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ShenanigansCommence t1_j51if1y wrote

Just a point on the video, I can't watch it due to it being location restricted so if you could provide a version of it I can watch I'd appreciate it.

So going off the videos and reels I've seen of Tate and his ideology, what makes his beliefs worse than toxic feminism ? Or the beliefs of Racists ? Or even the beliefs of countless other ideologies that result in deaths, attacks and abuse of countless others? His ideology focuses on men being empowered to not be afraid of this new PC culture and being vilified for just being a man.

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DoutFooL OP t1_j51jxmf wrote

But in his view, “being a man” consists of subjugating women. Maybe it’s borderline equivalent to what you’re referring to as “toxic feminism.” They can both be wrong (and I would argue are). Why believe one is worse than the other? Both systems hinge on lowering the value of the other human being. Male toxicity is more so now being normalized and accepted due to a backlash of female empowerment (maybe) solely because men are feeling emasculated by their loss of power. Why argue that this doesn’t exist or, even worse, that it is more acceptable.

Edit: wish I could provide a link where you could watch the vid. Sadly, I’m constrained by the limits of the internet.

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ShenanigansCommence t1_j51lw1k wrote

I would agree with your statement that both are wrong. What I see as empowering men is seen as backlash of female empowerment. I'd consider this a result of years of men being forced to remain silent in fear of being called a sexist if they were to point out flaws in modern feminist agendas.

Tate is a moron who given enough rope hangs himself with his lack of brain cells and stupid comments, he still isn't wrong on a number of points especially regarding men in today's society who are subjected to constant belittlement from feminists and how they're treated. .

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DoutFooL OP t1_j51mb8t wrote

Fair enough. The sad thing is, what you’re speaking about leads men to following Tate’s toxic belief, which goes back to why I think this video is important in today’s online landscape.

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ShenanigansCommence t1_j51oam8 wrote

Id actually love to meet someone who believes Tate is infallible. Just out of gross curiosity and then have them checked for a mental deficiency. I'm yet actually meet anyone who does, anyone I've talked to about him takes his ideologies with a pinch of salt at best while also reiterating what I've said earlier and him hitting home with so many examples and calling the bullshit on them. If anything it's a vice video that is stirring up views from people that refuse to acknowledge that their own ideas are wrong.

At the end of the day it's a crazy and fun world we live in, but as they say it takes all kinds to make it go round. Except people who hurt dogs they can find their place in hell.

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