nobodywithanotepad t1_iynbv6o wrote on December 2, 2022 at 5:54 PM

I'm into some stuff these guys have put out but this isn't funny or really on point at all. Those quotes are all ambiguous and whatever you think of either of these people they are nothing alike. Maybe I'm missing what's clever about this?

HarryHacker42 t1_iyndn08 wrote on December 2, 2022 at 6:05 PM

Maybe from 2009, but now, in 2022, Kanye is adoring Hitler and saying he did good stuff. Kanye is anti-Jew and vocally and publicly trying to unite people to hate Jews.

nobodywithanotepad t1_iynjvi6 wrote on December 2, 2022 at 6:46 PM

I know, it's everywhere, but this is manipulator vs manipulated. I'm Jewish if that matters- Also the grandson of a Nazi technically. Also from the system so not connected to any of that lol. I've read Mein Kampf, that's probably the most relevant thing I could bring to the conversation.

Kanye is being anti-semetic, no question. I also think majority of the people jumping on this bandwagon don't actually understand right and wrong and don't deserve a pat on the back for their lazy virtue signaling.

All that aside, they could do the same bit with quotes from Keanu Reeves but swinging at Kanye panders to an audience that loves to hate.

Does nobody else taste the irony in that?

HarryHacker42 t1_iyod4fu wrote on December 2, 2022 at 10:06 PM

I'll agree with that. The 2009 skit is vague enough that it really isn't funny in itself. It is because of where we ended up that it has any meaning.

I wouldn't call expressing disgust at Kanye's comments as "lazy virtue signaling" but more "disgust with Kanye's comments". We see over and over the hatred spread online turns into real life violence.

BrainOnLoan OP t1_iyojpe3 wrote on December 2, 2022 at 10:56 PM

It wasn't meant to be a serious attack on his political positions back then.

It was a skit poking fun at his tendency to make grandiose and self-centered statements.

Noone actually thought in 2009 that he held right-wing political positions. That made the skit possible because neither the two artists nor fans were thinking it insuated Nazi ideology.

It was just clean fun mocking his vague narcissistic bullshit.

The added irony is only perceived from the future. The perceived accusation (then without substance) wasn't actually implied back then, it was too outlandish.