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igner_farnsworth t1_iyhd69n wrote

"My 3 man IT department isn't big enough to keep up with our expanding company."

"The company just doesn't have the money to expand your department." Says the 6 person HR department.

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Sexypsychguy t1_iyhg3yr wrote

At the peak of my career in Mental Health I was earning $58k, in a 5 person department including the Director. HR had twice as many staffers, all making more than me. Heck the chap who literally only kept the employee files and updated them as needed made $68k. The 'intake' person who literally only handled W2, W4, I9 hiring documents made $72k.

Meanwhile I was in charge of responding to behavioral outburst ie. Physical assault and deciding if the police needed to be called for further intervention.

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igner_farnsworth t1_iyhghxn wrote

Sounds about right.

HR is nothing more than an industry to promote itself.

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draculamilktoast t1_iyhl5pt wrote

If you're good at selling then you can make more money selling nothing than you can if you're not good at selling and sell something valuable.

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degggendorf t1_iyhjuei wrote

What the heck kind of HR dept makes financial decisions? That company is all sorts of messed up.

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tip_top_scoot t1_iyhkn6t wrote

None of them, but Reddit is full of programmers who all hate HR so it’s cool to think that Hr has any control over department size 😂

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Whizi t1_iyhm6n8 wrote

This site has hate boners for any job that isn’t one of the couple stereotypical redditor jobs like IT or dog walker.

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doNotUseReddit123 t1_iyhlhtm wrote

On top of that, the concept of HR as a pure compliance function is deeply outdated (or only applies to tiny organizations). Any organization that isn’t using its HR function to better compete for, reward, and develop employees is missing out on talent.

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degggendorf t1_iyhm5vf wrote

For sure.

HR serves the company as any employee does, but part of serving the company is attracting and retaining talent, which can be in the employee's best interest too. It's not like they're pure evil (or pure good), they just have a role that sometimes aligns with what the employee wants for themselves, and sometimes it doesn't, and people should understand that.

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ChemicalOrdinary7 t1_iyhn8k7 wrote

Yeah this villainizing of HR is insane. Just realize they don’t have any sort of duty to you, and treat them like an arm of the company as they literally are

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KillstardoAbominate t1_iyhmg8k wrote

None, but it is HR's job to tell the employees "too bad the company doesn't have enough money to give out raises this year" or "We can't afford to hire more people for your department." So HR always gets shit on. Ya know, shoot the messenger and all that.

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hawklost t1_iyhmtu5 wrote

Funny, every job I have ever worked at had HR just get a list of open positions and a salary range for it. Possibly a priority version so they knew what to aim for more heavily.

They never decided how much to budget for hires or even pay raises, that was other departments.

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joleme t1_iyhpu73 wrote

The person didn't say they made the decision, but they obviously would know if financial would allow for more workers/higher wages.

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Willing_Cause_7461 t1_iyhlqp7 wrote

HR doesn't make those decisions. One of the many purposes of HR is to have someone between the person recieving the news and the decision maker.

Reason being you can only get so mad at the messenger.

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igner_farnsworth t1_iyhmslt wrote

> One of the many purposes of HR is to have someone between the person recieving the news and the decision maker.

That hilarious explanation makes HR sound even more useless than I thought in the first place.

So, I literally can't expand my department because the company hired people to be between me and my boss to give me the news he wouldn't have to give me if we didn't have all these HR people?

Not really showing me the value of HR there.

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Willing_Cause_7461 t1_iyhngdi wrote

The value is for your boss (or even your bosses boss) to not have to get in an arguement with you which I'd assume is more likely if your boss hands it to you personally.

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igner_farnsworth t1_iyhp3bn wrote

Shouldn't someone who can make a decision need to have that argument?

So you're telling me that not only does HR not need to exist but perhaps my boss or his boss shouldn't have a job as well.

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