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StraightCaskStrength t1_jc36v8t wrote

You would be shocked about how little resistance it takes to stop some criminals who want to look tough with a gun but deep down don’t want to hurt/kill people.

> do they lock the doors. Why didn’t he run to the next car? The cops aren’t there yet, you’re just gonna wait for them

Yes. He should have attacked the man with the gun who has already overpowered him once to take the gun and try to run down a short hallway with no real exit.

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Doggydog212 OP t1_jc41o1t wrote

I’m not saying attack the guy but push him off of you and make a break for it. If you are gonna go to prison for years but the police aren’t there yet, you gotta run

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StraightCaskStrength t1_jc49rx8 wrote

> I’m not saying attack the guy but push him off of you and make a break for it.

Push the guy… with the gun… oooookkkkkkkk

> If you are gonna go to prison for years but the police aren’t there yet, you gotta run

Run where? You think you’re just gonna go one car down the line and the angry mob you just attempted to rob isn’t going to follow?

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Doggydog212 OP t1_jc4cvlx wrote

He gave the gun to another guy at one point and told him to put on the safety

Yes run to another car. There was no angry mob. According to the witness in the report everyone was frozen until the one guy acted. And then keep going down cars until next stop and try to escape. I’m not saying you would have a great chance but you’d have a definite shot

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StraightCaskStrength t1_jc4aifs wrote

> you are gonna go to prison for years

2 of his 3 guilty sentences were discharged so while it goes on his record he has no jail time to serve. The third charge was dropped down so the robbery would be charged as if he did NOT have a gun…. And all these breaks were made with 4 prior assault charges and what I think to be a heroin distribution charge within the previous 12 months. I’m sure he was shocked he got any time at all.

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Doggydog212 OP t1_jc4ca1i wrote

This link provides more information than I would expect actually. Anyways glad you sent it because look here at his number one thing on his record:

26 10-8-526: CTA - UNSAFE COND/CROSS BETWEEN CARS (98-126-1.6A)

This guy loves going between cars, they must not lock them.

I don’t see the distribution charge but maybe I didn’t comprehend the charge right. I just see a possession. Armed robbery with a gun on a train, I guess he isn’t the sharpest tool, but that is clearly a step above anything else he was caught for. And I only see two assaults.

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7elevenses t1_jc37oeg wrote

That robber isn't really a tough guy, he's just a punk with a gun. Which was lucky for the marathon guy.

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mncyclone84 t1_jc33zhe wrote

Does the reporter really think the guy is wearing red? It sure looks like pink to me.

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Doggydog212 OP t1_jc33kgg wrote

And please no politics, I don’t want to hear about bail reform, this guy is charged with a felony he won’t qualify. I’m more so curious if there’s something logistical I’m missing or if anyone has more info. Do they lock the doors between cars in Chicago? That would make a little more sense if they were between stops and there was no where to go.

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StraightCaskStrength t1_jc3g4wt wrote

> This guy is charged with a felony he won’t qualify

http://publicsearch1.chicagopolice.org/Arrests/History/17821960

Was charged with a felony a year prior too. Not great at navigating all this legal stuff but I believe the code is this one…

> C) not less than 8 years and not more than 40 years with respect to 400 grams or more but less than 900 grams of any substance containing heroin;

I’m not sure about how many of the previous 4 assault/battery charges were felonies but will try to follow up.

> this guy was charged with a felony he will not qualify

ARRESTED Sunday, October 13, 2019 5:51 AM

ARREST LOCATION 5800 N CUMBERLAND AVE

ARRESTING AGENCY CHICAGO POLICE DEPARTMENT

RELEASED (AGENCY DETENTION FACILITY) Tuesday, October 15, 2019 4:45 AM

> …

Chicago actually makes finding criminal court records much more difficult than others (is anyone really surprised?)

At the end of it all, he is currently scheduled to spend <6 years in prison and was found guilty of armed robbery WITHOUT FIREARM, theft of >300 with prior intent (sentence discharged so this was a freebie), robbery (another freebie as this sentence was also discharged).

It’s shocking lightfoot even got 15% of the vote.

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Doggydog212 OP t1_jc3km0q wrote

Correction: violent felonies.

I think in every state with bail reform, violent felonies you are always held in jail without bond

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StraightCaskStrength t1_jc49d14 wrote

I’m confused as to what you were trying to correct here.

He was released on bail/bond in under 2 days and was then free for ~18 months until his actual sentence began.

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Doggydog212 OP t1_jc4b2b8 wrote

I was correcting myself. And my bad I didn’t click the link and look at the specific case, I thought your excerpt was from a previous one. You’re right he post bail 2 days later. The news report said he was held without bail. The judge must have reversed his decision or News just got it wrong.

Regardless it’s not bail reform because I’m sure he posted bond. Although that info doesn’t appear to be there

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