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ragnarmcryan t1_j7xh7od wrote

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I meant society in general. In America, the harder you work, the less you get paid

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gusteauskitchen t1_j7xj6ar wrote

The more valuable your work, the more you get paid.

Anyone can go pick up fast food. Instead of being a resentful little twat like this guy, try being more valuable to others.

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UglyPlanetBugPlanet t1_j7xt1bt wrote

All work is valuable. Taking people away from their valuable families, their valuable and finite time, their valuable hobbies, and their valuable lives, deserves to be compensated, valuably.

To say otherwise is pure class traitor-ism.

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gusteauskitchen t1_j7xxx94 wrote

All work is valuable? What if I take a rock and move it from one side of my property to the other, and then back over and over for 40 hours a week?

Not all work is valuable, and not all jobs are equally valuable.

Admitting to basic logic isn't traitorous no matter how badly you want to pretend. You sound like a communist lol.

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UglyPlanetBugPlanet t1_j7xz2vx wrote

I am a communist.

And you sound like the president of your Jr. High Republicans club.

Are you capable of seeing the disingenuous in your analogy? I hope you can. Because I genuinely hope you aren't trying to navigate this world with such poorly developed reasoning skills.

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gusteauskitchen t1_j7y2ag7 wrote

LOL you actually admit to being a communist, that's like being a nazi dude.

You idiots are going to get people killed... AGAIN.

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UglyPlanetBugPlanet t1_j7y2s27 wrote

Good luck growing in your political beliefs. You have a ways to go.

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ragnarmcryan t1_j7ychzi wrote

They tried pulling that “if I move a rock around my backyard” bs with me in another comment. That seems to be their go to way of demonstrating their ignorance

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UglyPlanetBugPlanet t1_j8082cp wrote

Yea, it's wild. I wonder if they know it doesn't make sense or if they truly believe it's a good analogy.

Who pays you to move the rock? What's the starting wage? Are there raises? What company is in the pointless rock-moving business? Who's the CEO? Are there any workers on the board?

Oh wait, none of those are answerable because moving a rock isn't a payed job? Lol I hope they know how bad that looks.

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ragnarmcryan t1_j7xlipu wrote

I’m an SRE making more than I ever could hope. I see others working just as hard, if not harder, making a fraction that I make. You’re a child if you think we pay for labor by it’s intrinsic value.

And no, not everyone can just work fast food. That will crush your fucking soul

Edit: made my comment nicer since I think I misinterpreted it. Core point remains the same

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gusteauskitchen t1_j7y2mpm wrote

Working hard does not equal valuable work.

I could take a rock and move it around my yard 40 hours a week, yeah I'm working my ass off, but I'm not bringing value to anyone.

We pay for labor the most accurately way we've ever found, by individuals deciding for themselves how much they are willing to pay for the labor, and how much the individual laborer is willing to do the work for. If you have a better way to figure that out down to an individual level I'd sure love to hear it.

The government deciding how much to charge and pay for jobs they know nothing about doesn't make any sense though, that's why communism keeps failing.

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