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rbrutonIII t1_j7jgltg wrote

Regardless how you feel about him, I think most people would agree he would be a great person to have a dinner with.

He seems like the type of person that even if you disagree you can have an amicable productive conversation, and maybe even crack a joke or two in between. Hard to find these days.

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[deleted] t1_j7n7srm wrote

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rbrutonIII t1_j7n8ss0 wrote

And you wouldn't want to ask his perspective? What he knew and didn't know? You wouldn't want to give ANY effort into understanding him and what happened, but would rather sit back and judge?

Then why the fuck should anyone try to understand or give credit to you? Attitudes and people like this are the reason we don't have intelligent discourse and any sort of common ground anymore

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rbrutonIII t1_j7nvm3h wrote

Exactly my thoughts. He's a guy I can honestly see saying I didn't do that as well as I should have. Not everyone ruined my plan, nothing was my fault blah blah blah.... He'd give an honest explanation of what he knew and what he did because of it, and how he sees it now. The value of something like that first hand cannot be understated.

And then you can also watch him giggle as he tells how he would yell duck when Cheney entered the room, or like how the Japanese secret service had to show them how to work the fancy bidet (just made that one up, but there's got to be tons of stories just like it)

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tittysprinkles112 t1_j7k2r7g wrote

I don't think so. That man is a war criminal.

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ROLOTONYBROWNTOWN785 t1_j7kvmeg wrote

Seriously fuck bush. His PR team should win a Nobel prize for how people view him as likeable now. Him and his entire administration of fucking war criminals.

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rbrutonIII t1_j7n9o6t wrote

Well he is a likable guy. But being a likable guy, or what I'd call affable, is mutually exclusive from any sort of criminal activity he's accused of.

And it doesn't matter if YOU like him or not. It's very evident. Look at the interactions he has with people versus the past president. He is very easy to talk to and "get along with". Part of the reason why he became president most likely.

People who can't differentiate a person's actions from their personalities are a huge problem in this world. Nice people can do bad things, and people who do bad things can be extremely nice. And in the same way, people who do bad things can also do good things. People are not entirely black and white.

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rbrutonIII t1_j7nfy1s wrote

If you look closely, you'll see this little word in the front of my sentence called "part". Do you seriously think people don't know his father was a president and he would be very very involved in politics?

What that means is if he was a massive asshole that nobody liked, even with those connections he wouldn't have gone far. See how that makes sense?

And wtf? Just like trump did? Do you think trump's dad was president and involved in politics like the bush family? Wtf are you smoking? Part of his campaign was this whole not a politician going to come in there and run it like a businessman type of thing

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timk85 t1_j7pj0hs wrote

It's funny you think it's a "PR Team" that has contributed to it.

Ah, what a magical worldview you must have.

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Brad_Wesley t1_j7kr64t wrote

Does his being a war criminal mean that you couldn't have an amicable and productive conversation and maybe even crack a joke or two in between?

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Valyrian_Kobolds t1_j7lpuxv wrote

Why the fuck would a decent person want to be UwU buddy buddy with a war criminal?

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Brad_Wesley t1_j7lrsfr wrote

The question wasn’t whether or not someone would want to be buddies with a war criminal.

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rbrutonIII t1_j7nap73 wrote

This is so irritating for me. It's like people don't want to admit the world is not completely black and white and they should put some sort of effort into their opinion.

If you ask these people, do you think if someone commits a crime worthy of prison you should just throw them in prison for the rest of their life? You get a resounding "NO!". But then they go and try and hold someone else's actions over them for their entire life.

And then regardless of how you feel about the person, the opportunity to have a dinner with a president? That's an opportunity very very few people have and a source of information that cannot be replicated or compared. Even if you spend the whole dinner beating the person up for what they did, to that person I would think it would be worth it? Too many people just see a word and name and trigger out a response without any semblance of thought or rationality.

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