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71802VT t1_j5uvy29 wrote

It would be great to verify this with a link. If it's real proposed legislation, why not link it directly from https://legislature.vermont.gov/ because if this is real, I think it's a bit much. To me, it reads like it was written by someone who is not a gun owner and has no association with guns at all. It's weird, some non-gun owners seem so mystified by guns having all sorts of Boogie Man associations with them. And then, when they go shooting for the first time, it all changes and they see that guns can be both a utilitarian tool and a part of a super fun sport. All that being said, I'm not some Wack-A-Do gun nut. Those people are out there, I know that. They get all tribal about gun ownership and throw reason out the window. I'm not one of them and I think it is important to acknowledge that there is a massive gun violence problem for sure. But like I said, if this is real proposed legislation, I think it goes Wack-A-Do too far.

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somedudevt t1_j5wp2zg wrote

Have you heard of Phil Baruth? He is pretty much the worst human on earth, and well…

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Northwoods01 OP t1_j5wr7u6 wrote

What's his deal anyway? Power mad and or Bloomberg money?

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somedudevt t1_j5wrjqh wrote

I don’t fucking know. He’s not from vermont and while I love me some Bernie, the base of our issues is we don’t elect Vermonters to legislate in Vermont.

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Unfiltered_ID t1_j64ljmr wrote

When 10000 west coast libs come into Vermont, it starts to become a west-coast-ish state.

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hotseltzer t1_j5vvo56 wrote

Generally the tactic in negotiations (politics or otherwise) is to ask for way more than you'd be happy with, knowing things will get cut back. Then in the end, you end up closer to where you actually want to be.

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71802VT t1_j604jwo wrote

Yeah, good point. Pun intended but, I wonder if the author of the proposed legislation is shooting themselves in the foot with such a Draconian proposal. I mean, if your first pass at it is so far fetched, some folks might not even take you seriously and you end up doing yourself a disservice. Like if someone suggested making you dissemble the key fob to your car every time you got home in an effort to curb drunk driving wouldn't you be like 'yeah right, gimmie a break dude'.

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