Submitted by VermontArmyBrat t3_10gkyn6 in vermont
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friedmpa t1_j53qiew wrote
If only he had that much power. His colleagues will never
cryospam t1_j53uk9b wrote
There will come a time, I fear in my lifetime, when life will get to the point where it sucks badly enough for all normal Americans that votes will cease to be the primary method for driving political change, and that worries me.
I really don't want to experience the next US civil war, but I don't doubt it's coming.
finelineporcupine t1_j54bpuw wrote
Have you heard of the deep state?
[deleted] t1_j54nqyv wrote
You may be interested in this podcast. I linked episode one, season one is all this story. It is a STORY, but it was written by a journalist who has seen the worst of American imperialism carried out since 2008/2009 or so when he began his career.
thisoneisnotasbad t1_j54p3rn wrote
I don’t think armed civil war is a reality any time soon and I don’t think economic boycotts or other acts of non approved civil disobedience will be tolerated by the power class at any level that has a real impact.
Reddit seems to get foamy at the mouth and call people fascist when they say both sides but come on man, both sides. One side is openly shitty with openly shitty people the other side is a little less shitty on social issues, with a couple decent people, but mostly full of greedy opportunistic profiteers.
At this point voting on a federal level is akin to making the decision to treat a gunshot would with a bandaid or dirty rag. Neither will really help, one will cause an active infection but both are going to leave you dead in roughly the same amount of time.
The US experiment is failing due to greed and a political system designed to keep the rich rich and the poor begging for crumbs.
I wish I had a better attitude about all this but even this article is a perfect example. Someone in Washington takes note of a union busting organization and what do they do? Write a strongly worded letter and people cheer.
We are at a point where we need to do something, anything, to make a change. Half measures will avail us nothing and lip service is getting old.
Be the change you want to see in the world but prepare for shit to get worse, and not better. I predict legal weed will be the 2024 distraction. Hey all, our healthcare system continues to crumble.... but you can buy legal weed now.
mojitz t1_j54xy5m wrote
>life will get to the point where it sucks badly enough for all normal Americans that votes will cease to be the primary method for driving political change
They already have — at least at the national level. We live in an effective oligarchy where the "democratic" institutions at our disposal are so poor that the public serves more of an advisory role than anything else. We've just deluded ourselves into believing our own propaganda about "freedom" and "democracy." At the end of the day, though, most of our problems boil down to precisely a lack of those things.
ReverseMoses t1_j54z6gy wrote
As long as we agree this is all the fault of the wealthy it shouldn’t last long tho
Odd-Philosopher5926 t1_j554ou2 wrote
An angrily worded letter. They might send him some coupons for a $1 off a soy machioto
cryospam t1_j558495 wrote
We're almost there, and it scares the shit out of me. It will come to a point where this country is going to explode into civil war.
Sakred t1_j55924w wrote
Crotchety old sell out who suckles on the public teat yells angrily at somebody who provides a food service to millions and jobs to hundreds of thousands.
mojitz t1_j55963l wrote
Not to get too bleak, but honestly the odds are just as good if not better that we just sort of slowly degrade into a more and more openly authoritarian state without much of any significant resistance to speak of.
[deleted] t1_j559eo4 wrote
Buy local. At the end of the day it's the consumer feeding the monster
RMTWHODAT t1_j55b2pc wrote
Starbucks coffee sucks anyway. Most expensive horrible coffee there is and people just can't get enough.
TwoNewfies t1_j55gd02 wrote
Big whoop, Bernie. Always yelling, so do something concrete!
Disastrous-Baker-914 t1_j55it3w wrote
As much is that is good for your neighbor you must remember your neighbors neighbor is the one in the factory making the goods you buy daily. As much as big business is the problem fighting them only hurts the little guy "aka US".
VoyageursWitch t1_j55lpl2 wrote
Fun fact, the last time it took this long to elect a speaker of the house was 1 year before the civil war...
Though we took a week and they took two months, but still it's a scary sign of how broken shit is.
[deleted] t1_j55od2w wrote
Yes but I'm pretty sure the coffee shop down in the village gets its paper cups from the same or similar supplier as Starbutts. Of which I'm sure few are neighbors. And more of the money, control, dignity, and flavor stay local.
Disastrous-Baker-914 t1_j55s6ut wrote
All I'm saying is alot of people will loose there jobs if a large company goes under. I would hope in return the local place makes up for that but then they become the thing they hate and it turns into a cycle?
you_give_me_coupon t1_j55unbo wrote
Definitely. A strongly-worded letter is pathetic, basically Elizabeth-Warren-energy.
KITTYONFYRE t1_j55vlrt wrote
local company much higher % of the profit goes to employees. Starbucks fucks over your neighbor so that Charles down in the Florida keys can buy a second boat
cryospam t1_j5610ow wrote
I'm not sure I agree. There are a large number of Americans who would become active domestic terrorists under an actual authoritarian fascist government.
It is not just the far right who are amassing firepower.
Politicians go down with one bullet just like anyone else. Piss off the majority of Americans and it will explode into civil war, and then politicians become legitimate targets of that war.
mojitz t1_j56330u wrote
We'll see 😬
[deleted] t1_j568g42 wrote
Mom and pop shops can't build jet planes or run fiber optic across the ocean, big companies can. But do corporations need to take over everything? Look at airbnb, every day people got to make money off their extra space then big companies started buying houses and renting them on the same platform and pushing everyone else out of the way.
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5teerPike t1_j57ccze wrote
"some slaves got to sleep in the house, so was it really so bad"
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RMTWHODAT t1_j57lg0s wrote
I drink black coffee ☕️. Must be why they add all that junk to it. Cover the horrible taste.
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cryospam t1_j53mizk wrote
Then fucking fine them a LOT.
Make it too expensive to break employment law. Until that happens you're just blowing smoke mother fucker.