sorrycharlie88 t1_j3lol76 wrote
I hunt and trap. Favorite is trapping for coyotes because they're smart as hell and have great noses. Always a game of wits with them, and the suspense that builds every time you approach your traps never subsides. Close second is trapping beaver because it's the opposite in terms of difficulty but it's still just as fun. Plus beaver meat is delightful. I tan my skins and make hats and mittens and ideally more items in time.
Cool stories.... Well, depends what you think is cool. I think it's pretty cool trying to get an intelligent animal with a territory of hundreds to thousands of acres to step on a spot on the ground the size of a soda can lid. This year I had a multi day pissing match with a coyote who stepped and pissed all around a trap but because I mishandled the trap and got my scent on it he could smell it and avoid it. That to me is cool...and frustrating. I also think hunting them is cool, going out mid winter in the middle of the night and using mouth calls to mimic prey or other coyotes brings a different element to hunting than traditional deer or bear hunting.
-PineMarten OP t1_j3lpnad wrote
Oh my god thats wild! I have so much respect for the trapping community of Vermont. I was lucky enough to talk to a local trapper while shadowing a warden who showed us all his gear and skins. It was absolutely fascinating!
ceiffhikare t1_j3pjhb4 wrote
yeah they are SO worthy of respect for making an animal suffer in pain for hours or days even until the person gets around to checking the trap for any victims.
Trappers are *Edit: a special kind of heartless and empathically challenged human appearing creatures and should be subject to their own devices. it is a skill set that has little use in todays world.
-PineMarten OP t1_j3sq7bg wrote
I can see judging by your first piece of text, you know very little about trapping laws. They are required to check every 24 hours and often do so more frequently, so it would not be days. I am happy to explain to you why conservation is important and why trapping, hunting and fishing isn’t cruel when done properly, if you’re willing to have an open mind about it.
ceiffhikare t1_j3unygc wrote
Spare me the sermon on conservation, IDC and you would be wasting your energy. Not ever going to have a bit of respect for those sick SOB's who use this barbaric practice in this day and age. I could almost understand before we had the technology we have now and had to depend on the natural world for food and clothing but now? now you just want an excuse to torture animals.
Sick! That is the only word..printable that is , that i can use for you types.
-PineMarten OP t1_j3xsr7w wrote
I understand you feel strongly, however I suggest doing some research before spewing hate at a community you know nothing about.
ceiffhikare t1_j3y0f35 wrote
If a person takes an animal using these methods due to need of some resource it provides or to protect some other resource they have i can reluctantly accept the need for it. We dont live in that world any more, anything you can get from any trappable animal technology and society has produced a replacement for often superior to what you may have made yourself.
No what we are discussing here and you are advocating for is the use of these methods to take animals for nothing more than recreation, for 'sport'. You take pleasure from this despite knowing that you are inflicting torment on said creatures. According to the DSM that is one of the PRIME signs of having ASPD. I cant believe that im am the person to have to tell you that torturing animals for joy is a bad thing,lol.
contrary-contrarian t1_j3lsbd3 wrote
Do you get any unintended animals in the traps? I'd be so worried about that.
[deleted] t1_j3m7a6l wrote
A dog in VT was just killed in a trap last month, so it certainly does happen :( https://www.wcax.com/2022/12/26/vermont-woman-warning-others-after-her-dog-was-killed-trap/?outputType=amp
TheBugHouse t1_j3n8u2g wrote
That was an illegal set.
somedudevt t1_j3ouz49 wrote
Nothing mentions that they were walking the dog on their own land either, just that it was private and a place she has walked the dog before. So even if it wasn’t an illegal trap, if she was walking her dog on someone else land without a leash, then that is a risk outside of the trappers ability to control. Pets under proper supervision do not become victims of hunters.
-PineMarten OP t1_j3syv6k wrote
You’re right. Theres a huge issue with people letting their dogs have free reign of property that doesn’t belong to them. Its unfortunate.
nomadicbohunk t1_j3t9g48 wrote
Are their any furbuyers around VT? I'm aware of the prices. I'm going to start calling soon. I was wondering if anyone would buy coyotes or if I should just not shoot them because.
sorrycharlie88 t1_j3tcu6q wrote
There are annual auctions, used to be two. Might be some traveling fur buyers around but I don't know. I only trap enough to tan on my own and make stuff so I haven't yet gotten into that aspect of it. From what I've read in the trappers post, coyotes are anticipated to be down this year, but it doesn't hurt trying or just holding until next year if they bounce back. On that note I highly recommend reading the trappers post. has lots of great articles, info and projections on markets, and state by state news. You get a subscription with the 25 dollar membership to the Vermont trappers association, which alone is helpful for the future of trapping here. They work with wardens and legislators, put on events, and teach the trapper Ed courses. They would also have more info on fur buyers so I'd reach out to them.
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