Allemaengel t1_j2mcvfb wrote on January 2, 2023 at 11:33 AM

I live in the Poconos but really like Vermont as well.

Lifelong Pennsylvanian coming from a similarly touristy resort area that's only 2 hours from NYC I think it might have do with a combo of locals increasingly being priced out of decent housing by out-of-state investors wanting to set up annoying loud party-house airbnbs or their little vacation getaway. It just plain makes life harder to get by for regular folks working service-sextorcjobs.

Then there's the general rudeness of a lot of tourists and recent out-of-state move-ins . The fatigue factor is real dealing with those guys.

I don't think longtime Vermonters are entitled (I always found them to be good people) they're generally nice but perhaps just tired if they feel anything like us here in the Poconos.

Finally, I really don't expect to be treated like royalty when I vacation. I keep in mind that I'm in somebody else's hometown and that I'm the guest. No one owes me anything for that.

marbleheader88 t1_j2oox73 wrote on January 2, 2023 at 10:00 PM

I thought the Poconos were mostly abandoned?

Allemaengel t1_j2owgnj wrote on January 2, 2023 at 10:50 PM

No, I wish. There'd be some solitude at least, lol. I think Penn Hills outside East Stroudsburg was one of the last one mostly burned through repeated arsons.

More like redeveloped and updated. It's a 4-county $4 billion a year tourism industry so most of those old-school resorts either burned down or were bulldozed. What replaced them were huge indoor water parks like Kalahari, Great Wolf, Camelback etc. Then there's big casino resorts like Mount Airy. Not sure if it's still planned but we were going to get a Margaritaville resort too. The ski areas have transitioned to four season destinations with glamping, etc.

In any case, being right across the Delaware from NJ and 2 hours to NYC means that we've been swamped since COVID began by WFH move-ins and more vacationers staying close to home. 45% of the housing in my county is owned by out of staters.

It's all so crowded (like every 3rd car has out of state plates) annoying and tacky and EVERYONE ends up here due to I-80 like Bryan Kohberger the Idaho murderer caught in my hometown.

If I could afford it, I'd move to Vermont and keep a low profile fading away into the woods.