df33702021 t1_j24lfrw wrote
I have land and have seen it all: trash, poaching, people cutting trails, vehicles doing donuts, just outright rudeness, etc, etc. Just post it. People are shits. I lived in my area growing up and bought a large piece of property and found out the neighbors were actually the biggest pieces of shit ever. They didn't care about my privacy and they didn't care about their dogs harassing me or my critters. They had used the property through the years and the fact that someone bought it (even a local) and built a house didn't matter to them. In fact, it seems to have angered them. It's almost like they considered themselves to be the defacto owners, although many of them could have bought it at certain points through the years. The fact that the house was there didn't matter to them. They would go right through my yard in front of the house to access the property even though they didn't have to. Just rude.
Add to that all the people who want to use the property from just random places. It's like they (especially hunters who have paid for a license) have a sense of entitlement. It's like when you see a tourist who's just being a complete shit. You wonder if they behave the same way when they are home. Do they throw trash on their own property? Do they respect their neighbor's privacy? etc.
So up went the signs. It's an onerous task by design. But you should check your property lines every year anyway. It's never happened to me, but I know of other property owners who have had their lines moved. Anyway, I was just done with it. I'm not going to be treated like shit on my own property.
In terms of signs near houses, I have the same situation with signs going right by someone's house. I don't feel bad about it though. This guy wants to hunt on the property and I tried it twice with him. He won't follow the rules. The rules are simple. Text when/where you enter. Same when you leave. Only deer. And stay away from the house. I have others who do fine with this. Anyway, he wouldn't even see the signs except he cleared every tree on his own property. So screw it. I tried.
Anyway. just post it. You can just do no trespassing signs. They don't have to be dated or signed.
flambeaway t1_j27s1jr wrote
>They don't have to be dated or signed.
They do have to be dated.
>Signs must:
>Be placed at all corners of your property (or the portion you wish to post) and spaced 400 feet or less apart along or near boundaries,
>Be at least 8.5 inches wide by 11 inches tall,
>Have lettering and background on contrasting colors,
>Be legible, including any additional information or wording,
>Be maintained and dated each year, and
>Permission Only signs must include a way to contact the owner.
df33702021 t1_j28li6c wrote
No hunting signs have to be dated and signed. No trespassing signs do not.
flambeaway t1_j2am2w1 wrote
All Vermont law about posting and land access is hunting law, the right to general pedestrian access is a recognized implicit extension of hunting access. The right to restrict general pedestrian access is a recognized extension of the right to restrict hunting, so all the same burdens apply.
The only signs that don't need to be dated are safety zone signs. Also no trespassing signs on buildings, but I don't think that's what you meant.
But if you've got a source that supports your understanding I'd be interested to read it.
These are my sources:
https://legislature.vermont.gov/statutes/section/10appendix/001/00014
df33702021 t1_j2arwws wrote
No, hunting and trespass are two different beasts. Hunting is treated separately and what you quote specifically applies to hunting. It has nothing to do with civil or criminal trespass.
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