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Corey307 t1_iy3qmkv wrote

This sounds like the nation in general, the pandemic and political insanity of the last few years has made people shortsighted and angry. Folks are struggling financially too both due to the pandemic and now due to inflation and corporations exploiting consumers with unnecessarily high prices for basics like food and fuel. odds are you’d have a similar experience in many parts of the country.

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Greenleaf737 OP t1_iy3sf7k wrote

Perhaps, but VT is elevated. Lots of people moved in after/during the pandemic. Such a large change in population dynamics isn't going to be negligible.

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Corey307 t1_iy3tpwk wrote

Less than 5000 people moved here during the pandemic if I remember right. I moved here about four years ago well before the pandemic and I’ve tried to integrate. Mostly keep to myself because that’s who I am but I’m friendly, don’t bother anybody and don’t care about what people do on their land. The problems I’ve had in this state were caused by locals doing dumb shit like not leashing aggressive dogs and letting them bother me on my land or riding ATV’s across my land in mud season. I let it go because again trying to integrate.

My favorite might be one I first bought my place and some neighbors came over and were more interested in making sure I wasn’t going to turn it into an Airbnb than knowing my name. Or when another neighbor decided my lawn was getting too high so they scalped it not understanding that I let it grow a bit on purpose. Talk about passive aggressive, I bought a house in the country so I wouldn’t have to worry about HOA type bullshit. Yeah transplants bring their own problems by the locals cause plenty.

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alwaysmilesdeep t1_iy3xmno wrote

Agree with all of this. I was born and raised between nh and vermont.

The transplants yards aren't filled with trash most business in my area are owned by transplants Whenever we do seem to have crime it's a local, not some outsider. We want to say drugs come from other states...sure it's true...but they are be distributed by....locals.

Now I'm not disagreeing with issues with outsiders...atv and snowmobile trails closed for no reason/shutting down huntjng areas...constant bitching about vermont's more traditional ways of life...

I feel like most transplants are cognizant of it and work twice as hard just to be treated as normal.

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Corey307 t1_iy42k5l wrote

It’s funny you talk about yards, my land was a junkyard before I bought it and now it’s a lot better. No derelict vehicles, piles of car parts and all that. I don’t care if my neighbors are on my but if land unless it damages the land or endangers me.

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cpujockey t1_iy40slc wrote

it is when you think about how many people actually live here. it's not small potatoes. there are plenty of towns where "everyone knows eachother" and those towns are the most effected by the great flatlander migration.

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gmgvt t1_iy5r7bo wrote

There was an earlier (and absolutely larger) "great flatlander migration" in the 1960s-80s and somehow we all survived it. People moving here isn't the problem. Bad financial incentives and policy around home building are the problems.

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