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somedudevt t1_jecbj8o wrote

Reply to comment by TheTr7nity in Vermont House advances stricter regulations on private schools taking public tuition by casewood123

Seems pretty fucking reasonable that we as a society have an expectation that our tax money will be spent on creating good citizens not little Adolfs

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TheGoldberryBombadil t1_jecxfrh wrote

Except this bill is aimed at schools like Lyndon, Burr and Burton, St. Johnsbury, which are technically private but basically operate as public schools for local kids.

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somedudevt t1_jeeq2ee wrote

But I don’t give a shit… if you get state money, you should be turning out kids who are educated in a way that fits the states norms and values. And you should be accepting all kids who want to attend. I don’t think that the semi-private schools that are the main school for their town are at any kind of risk. I haven’t read the law, but compliance with state education standards seems like a pretty base level expectation. As a kid who had school choice, chose SJA, but had an 504 plan, SJA refused to accept me unless I had a true IEP which came with more money for them. Through some testing and other crap I was given an IEP, and attended SJA for a total of 6 weeks before they decided that I wasn’t a fit, and I got sent to a different school. They take state money, fuck them treating kids who learn differently like they are fucking diseased. What those schools fail to do is support kids who have LDs, and that’s a disservice to the kids, some of whom will grow out of those issues, and support in those years is imperative in their future success. Luckily for me after 18 months of bouncing I landed in a public high-school that set me up for college, and I’m now an adult with a career. But a lot of kids who get cast aside by these schools don’t get that support, or don’t do well through the uncertainty.

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TheGoldberryBombadil t1_jeesx40 wrote

I mean, it sounds like this bill is intended to address exactly this situation, and I am sorry that happened to you. But I don't think it's fair to call kids that attend St. Johnsbury, Lyndonville, Burr and Burton, Thetford, "little Adolfs". These are just normal Vermont kids from normal Vermont families.

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somedudevt t1_jeeulig wrote

Oh no they aren’t… they are normal. But it also impacts schools like the one that just forfeited it’s basketball season because they hate LGBT people and those kids are on a path to being little adolfs.

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TheGoldberryBombadil t1_jeev4dr wrote

No, that's a private religious school that does NOT receive public funding. Our tax dollars do not go to those schools. And this bill only applies to schools that receive public funding, so it has nothing to do with the private religious schools!

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Kixeliz t1_jefgh99 wrote

> No, that's a private religious school that does NOT receive public funding.

Yet. They sure are trying like hell, though.

https://vtdigger.org/2023/02/17/in-bid-for-state-approval-religious-schools-seek-to-sidestep-anti-discrimination-laws/

> But now, a pair of religious schools are testing that rule. In applications to the State Board of Education last month, the heads of two Vermont Christian schools sought approval for tuition money — but hinted that they might not follow all of Vermont’s anti-discrimination laws.

One of those two Christian schools? The same Mid-Vermont school that forfeit over a trans opponent.

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TheGoldberryBombadil t1_jefh9d7 wrote

Well, and there's the rub. Those schools can't (or shouldn't be able to) accept public funding without abiding by the public rules. Which makes such obvious sense. Can't have your cake and eat it too.

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Kixeliz t1_jefi1iw wrote

You would think, but then the Supreme Court ruled 6-3 that school voucher programs can't discriminate against schools because of their religious practices. So that's why these Vt. schools are trying to force their way into public dollars.

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