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Where do you currently live? Are you prepared for the realities of the state year-round, not just during ski season?

Also, housing will be your biggest obstacle. It was slim pickings before covid, now it's slim pickings and very expensive.

I'm currently in the NY southern tier. I'm not sure what the realities are of year round, definitely looking for advice as to what that looks like!

I lived in Vermont for a year. I would still live there if there was appropriate housing but the market is very tight and expensive there . Had a great experience , loved the state , wish I could be there right now ! Look at Zillow for rentals it’s slim .

I worked at Okemo and they did provide housing for some out of state employees so you could ask about that .

My standard response to these posts: Don't, unless you've done your research. Bad housing market. Vermonters can't find rentals. Think before you hop on over.

People are literally telling you what it's like in these replies. It's expensive unless you have a 6 figure job.

Right that's why I asked, so people would reply with answers

Any reason besides housing?

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What are you talking about? I've seen 100s of posts like this that clearly show that people don't want to research this stuff by themselves.

There's a subreddit for ALL of these stupid questions: r/NewToVermont

Yup already also posted in there as well 👍🏻

Also it's hard to research people's personal experiences, hence why I'm asking on here. Why so hostile?

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If you like out to eat there isn’t much of that there . Shop around , try to find a market basket for groceries.as some Places to shop are a tad expensive.

If you do rent something and have to provide your own heating oil that can be expensive also. If you make your own food for the most part your golden there are tons of great farms around.

Vermont is mostly rural but the scenic views and nature are amazing !

We are planning our permanent move back to either Vernont or Maine next summer .

Awesome thank you!

What's your why to moving here besides being close to the mountain you work/ski at?

There are a dozen obstacles, housing, low wages, lack of access to certain stores or other amenities that you otherwise might be accustomed to in less rural areas.

You can expect whatever occupation you chose to generally pay less than elsewhere unless you are doing remote for an out of state company. Housing is a bitch, i make over 100k and even i am having a hard time making a winning bid on a house. Rentals are slim and over priced due to demand.

A lot of stores close much earlier than you would expect (in some cases 5pm which seems absurd given that doesn't give normal 9-5 employees a chance to get what they need after work)

Other services are also more expensive due to high demand and lack of availability.

Vermonters are generally kind and accepting but in return we all kind of actively contribute to the community in one way or another. Support local stores, volunteer, donate, or whatever. Its kind of an unwritten agreement because we know without those things Vermont would just be like any other place out of state.

So if those things are cool with you, go for it. If not, look elsewhere.

Thank your for your insight! I appreciate the in-depth response

When are you looking to move? I'm looking to sell a house in the Mad River Valley.

Depends where in SW vermont. Bennington most likely has the most housing. Living in VT is very tough if you make around the median salary. So google what that is for the area you’re planning to move to, and compare to what you think you’ll be making. Housing can be hard to come by. Besides housing, there’s not much of a night life. Also theres a pretty decent drug problem.

There are nice shops / restaurants. And the outdoors are pretty accessible. Its not far from Troy or Albany.

It really depends on where you’re moving from. If you’re moving from a city or a town with things to do, it might seem depressing. If you’re moving from a small town in NY it might seem like an upgrade or at the very least an easy transition.

Housing rough to find and expensive in SWVT. Good seasonal job would be a golf course. Pays real well but you work mad hours

Honestly, because every other post here is someone saying they are or want to move here. They ask the same questions and get the same answers. We’re tired of it. Just read the posts.

Or you can just ignore them if they piss you off so much

Oh I'm not looking for a seasonal job, thanks though! Just thoughts on living there, besides housing

You and the others are turning the VT sub exclusively into ignorant flatlander land. Do some research instead of incessantly bothering those who live where you’re interested in, not a good start.

Lol okay 👍🏻 sorry I asked a vermont-based question in a Vermont subreddit

Why don't you ask the mods to ban "moving to..." questions instead of attacking us?

Why don't you take the 10-seconds of searching for the same thread that exists ten times over?

You're getting Vermont answers of not wanting to deal with lazy people in the Vermont subreddit.

Use the search bar.

Because I wanted answers specifically to my question, not someone else's

Thanks!

Aww, because you're special and there's no way those answers already exist to this very special, rare, and unique question set. Definitely not a set of overly generic questions.

Looking to move to southern Vermont....that's definitely never been asked.

Oh, a teacher too, yeah definitely not asked either. There's no waaaaay, those could be found in under a minute.

Exactly 😊

Dude just ignore the posts you don't want to deal with and move on 😂 like you don't HAVE to respond to things, you know that, right?

You are the spam. You are the problem. You’re pissing off the locals and you’re not even here yet. Don’t expect anyone to be warm and welcoming if you arrive with that attitude.

Nobody attacked you. We told you to use the search and stop spamming. Massive difference.

Also we have a sub for these questions. You were told what that sub is. Yet insisted on pestering and spamming this sub with the same generic questions asked daily.

Weird because I've had lots of Vermonters be warm and welcoming so far. But I'll play "it's me, hi, I'm the problem it's me" everywhere I go so people like you know to stay away. Don't worry, I gotchu.

Ask them stupid questions and act like a flatlander, you’ll see the tune change real fast. Also ski resorts are representative of Vermont, they put on the tourist song and dance.

Does a problem get corrected by ignoring it? No.

Multiple users told you to use the search feature because this happens so often. Instead of going, "oh shit, didn't know that! Thanks." You think it's other people who are mean and the issue rather than any sort of self-reflection and figuring it out.

You want others to do the work for you because you're too lazy to punch in "moving" "southern Vermont" or "teaching" into a search bar. Then double-down on others being the issue.

Idk I've asked some people these questions and they were happy to answer. Just appears that redditors here don't know how to move on if they don't like a question. Or see that I already posted in a different subreddit, but continue to comment

You’ve added to the spam, were asked to stop, then acted like the locals are the problem. Get off your high horse.

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But listen. Only you and one other told me to not ask that in here. If you look at the other replies, people ARE answering my questions

Because Vermont is full. How do you plan on finding housing?

I already have housing, that's why I edited my post. I realized I forgot to put that in, that was my bad.

And panhandlers also make money. People asking for handouts usually get something.

Don't take the handout as positive reinforcement

Oof way too late for that. I absolutely did

Ahh, yes. Another rich kid. VT definitely needs more of that.

It's been noted. I hope the laziness doesn't follow you into the classroom, for the students' well-being

Ahh, yes. More people assuming things they literally don't know about. The world definitely needs more of that.

Hi, I put a post in NewtoVermont a week or two ago asking why people decided to move to Vermont other than the beauty and recreation. There were a lot of really great pro/con answers go check it out: https://www.reddit.com/r/NewToVermont/comments/11fb53p/to_all_the_new_people_moving_to_vermonti_have/

People had some really wonderful things to say about Vermont and their stories were pretty touching of why they decided to come here. It honestly gave me another perspective of the state I live in and a better appreciation for it!

I hope your entitlement doesn't follow you in life, for the public's well-being

Oh wow thank you for the link! I appreciate it!

Entitlement? Says the person asking to be provided responses to the information that is already readily available, but they are too lazy to look for it.

That's just precious.

Asking for answers and people readily replying due to their own self-will is not entitlement? I didn't demand people to answer me 😂

Asking the same question that's been repeated hundreds of times and expecting answers and then being snippy about housing answer. Nah, not entitled. The search function is a chore to use. I understand.

You're not entitled, just lazy or incompetent.

Housing will keep you away. We just don’t have it. And in the event you do find housing, you won’t be able to set up a dentist, a PCP, or mental health services (if applicable) because we don’t really have that, either. Or child care. And everything is very expensive.

Other than that, it’s great.

Fair. I'm definitely lazy or incompetent, you right

Yeeaaah

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You don't have it as in like there aren't a lot of providers, or they're all just at capacity and don't have room for new patients?

I moved here like 2 years ago. I moved for a very specific reason and I will move back out as soon as I can (summer of 2024).

Here’s my opinions and I assume I’ll get downvoted to hell and back.

Good: It’s pretty. Skiing is fun. The state parks are lovely. No traffic and just driving around looking at the views is nice.

Not so good: It’s boring. Very little going on and very little to do. Its cold, like really cold. For a really long time. Businesses are strange with inconsistent hours and constant staff shortages.
There’s not a lot of people outside of chittendon county and most of the towns seem vacant most of the year with Airbnb and second homes. This will lead to potential feelings of isolation. Heating bills are shockingly high. You will need snow tires and your car will rust with salt.

Both.

Damn

I moved to SE Vermont in 2020 after spending a little over a year looking for a place.

All I'm going to say about housing is this: Things are tough all over, not just in Vermont. Housing is expensive across the U.S. Decent rentals are hard to find for anyone making less than 6 figures. And forget about buying property within commuting distance of any major city, unless your household income is above a quarter million.

I chose Vermont because I like its beauty, its history, and even the people. Communities here are actually communities, not just places where people come home to sleep & then commute to the city the next morning. I moved in at the beginning of lockdown and my neighbors left & right of me introduced themselves over the fence, asked if we needed anything, even brought over groceries while we were quarantined the first couple of weeks.

Now that everything has opened up again, there's always something going on: art shows, music, plays, community clean-ups. Everything is on a smaller scale compared to Boston, but the adjustment wasn't too painful.

Vermont needs (more) people with energy and ideas and a desire to help their community. You would be welcome!

Thank you so much for the response!