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Traditional_Bank_311 t1_jaxwv2m wrote
Vt yankee…
kn4v3VT t1_jaxwxhs wrote
Exactly
Careful_Square1742 t1_javwo0u wrote
so will the current renewable energy goals be amended, because they are all written using the assumption that hydro power is renewable (hydro power is not depleted when used, which is the definition of renewable)?
I see where this is coming from, but find other ways to incentivize wind/solar/geo/etc than de-incentivizing hydro.
Curious what GMP has to say about this impacting rates if they are required to keep their energy mix at the same renewable mix. They're already at $0.19/kwh for most customers. While that's not that high, it certainly isn't cheap either.
We need MORE baseline power generation to support a future with EVs and heat pumps. Solar and wind are great, but they aren't baseline power (at least not until we figure out utility scale power storage - at least 10 years out). We should be incentivizing the crap out of anything that generates power that doesn't burn fossil fuels, not trying to change the definition of renewable.
Loudergood t1_jawyitx wrote
These folks are also hell bent against biogas.
Unique-Public-8594 t1_javvg7o wrote
From the article:
> bills recently introduced into the House include:
> H395 (Masland, D-Thetford) increase instate energy sources. Decrease Hydroelectric from Canada.
> H457 (O-Brien, D-Tunbridge), imposes taxes on food depending on how far food travels from place of origin.
> H450 (Howard, D-Rutland), gives supplemental income, health insurance, retirement benefits to legislators.
> H447 (Mrowicki, D-Putney), bans paramilitary group training and open-carry of semi-automatic weapons (with exceptions for police, etc.).
> H445 (Cina, P-Burlington), places a moratorium on developing a new correctional facility.
> H444 (Noyes, D-Wolcott), establishes a trust fund to pay for long-term care.
> H440 (Burditt, R-Rutland Town), requires safety belts on new schoolbuses.
> H435 (Cina & Sheldon, D-Middlebury) overhauls Vermont’s economy to be ecologically friendly.
Details in article.
OhMyAchingBrain t1_jaw3axj wrote
I consider myself Democrat leaning but there is a lot of stupid in that list....
PiermontVillage t1_jaw7k4k wrote
A lot of bills get proposed every session. Very few get enacted. That’s sorta how a democracy works.
OhMyAchingBrain t1_jaw7s5d wrote
Ya. I know. I am just suprised people will put their names on some of that stuff.
VTGrown t1_jazia6v wrote
Democracy works by proposing stupid bills and seeing which ones don't get shot down..?
hulknc t1_jb08jgm wrote
Throw spaghetti at the wall and see which one sticks, back it until it fails or until you’re voted out.
Meow_Meow_4_Life t1_javwvs6 wrote
Is paramilitary training and open carry an issue in Vermont?
trueg50 t1_javzzh1 wrote
Kind of, and no.
There was a guy in Pawlet not following town rules, threatening neighbors, and doing a shooting program. It's an ongoing struggle that has worried police/neighbors/town officials with how he is not following rules. We will see what he does now that the court has issued major fines and ordered him to demolish buildings.
As for open carry, absolutley not a problem, just another case of "seeing something else where and deciding its an issue needing solving here". It also is a nice bonus if it demonized gun owners and makes firearms "that much scarier/hard to own". I hope the open carry measure is stripped out.
lantonas t1_jaw62cs wrote
> As for open carry, absolutley not a problem, just another case of "seeing something else where and deciding its an issue needing solving here". It also is a nice bonus if it demonized gun owners and makes firearms "that much scarier/hard to own". I hope the open carry measure is stripped out.
Hopefully open carry of semi-automatic weapons is enforced against police as well. I hate seeing police open carry their semi-automatic pistols
xxxDog_Fucker_69xxx t1_jawhnyx wrote
No they just want to take your guns. I’m pretty sure these people have never fired a rifle let alone actually been to gun club to educate themselves.
Chess_Not_Checkers t1_javxrp1 wrote
There's a camp in Pawlet that I guess is of concern. I think it's going to be hard to draw the line between some guys target shooting together and some guys training themselves militarily, though.
Americ-anfootball t1_jayk0p2 wrote
No, the “paramilitary training” facility in pawlet that obviously influenced the writing of this bill was already a flagrant zoning violation at the local level in a number of ways. It’s just that zoning enforcement takes a while because due process of law and all that jazz, and Banyai is an uncommonly bad faith actor who is willing to face jail time rather than admit he’s got no case. If the legislature actually cared about this as a real land use issue, they could take a look at the powers delegated to municipalities for zoning enforcement, or the statutorily define process for zoning enforcement cases that wind up in environmental court. In any event, it’s a solution in search of a problem, and the worst kind of performative legislating.
I think it’s pretty obvious that the open carry ban piece, if passed, would never ultimately survive a second amendment challenge, but is also likely in violation of the state constitutional right to bear arms as well. If the piece about “paramilitary training” facilities covers even non-commercial peaceable assembly for the sake of militia training, that seemingly violates the first and second amendments on its face.
Preempting municipal zoning to ban commercial firearms training facilities statewide is probably also not constitutionally survivable, but that’s the piece that seems closest to passing the sniff test out of the litany of problematic clauses in this bill
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Blueslide60 t1_jaxjjdf wrote
It definitely is a big issue in southwest Vermont. The entire community was scared of the training center/security compound and the guy that ran it. Our Governor said he was unable to do anything legally.
Loudergood t1_jawyqmj wrote
Where are the folks that blame things on Chittenden county now?
HeadPen5724 t1_jawe0xc wrote
Makes it really hard to take some of these people seriously…
grnmtnboy0 t1_jawhhwm wrote
The only things in that list that make any sense at all are H395, Increase instate energy production. Vermont should lead the way in new energy production, starting with building nuclear power plants. And H445, Place a moratorium on new prisons. We house enough trash in the state already. Let's not build places to bring in any more of it. Send the crooks out of state and build decent housing for our own citizens instead. 4 H444, Long term senior care sounds ok but more info is needed, particularly about how to pay for it
lantonas t1_jaw5qow wrote
This is what happens when you vote Democrat
lostdad75 t1_jawec5q wrote
ISO New England, the grid operator for New England, has long considered hydro as non-renewable power.
kn4v3VT t1_javv42i wrote
I mean I get the reason and I like the intent and the effort. Jim Masland (D-Thetford) has his heart in the right place, but needs to google “embedded carbon” because then he’d understand that It’s fucking stupid to turn our backs on already developed and accessible carbon free low cost power.