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ellusiveuser t1_j7u5m05 wrote

Reply to comment by Eagle_Arm in Please help support our campus libraries! by prettypeepers

You understand the books are unavailable in either scenario... right?

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Eagle_Arm t1_j7ud9ql wrote

So you're sticking by your bad analogy?

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ellusiveuser t1_j7uqb0y wrote

The end result of depriving access to literature is tyranny whether defacto by budgetary mismanagement, or de jure by writ of autocratic decree. The result is still the same and should be opposed as such. The fact that you're defending the circumstances due to financial incompetence doesn't change the absolutely incalculably inexcusable outcome, which was made evident in the novel.

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Eagle_Arm t1_j7v60z0 wrote

I'm not defending anything. I'm saying your analogy is garbage. I don't like the fact that books are going away, but not liking something doesn't mean I don't understand it.

And you calling the library's physical copies being removed as tyranny is also crazy. It's not good, but it's not tyranny.

I'll just go ahead and assume you also think if someone doesn't agree with you that they are the basically the next Hitler.

Who knows maybe these VT colleges are tyrannical!

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ellusiveuser t1_j7v91yq wrote

I don't think you're Hitler for not agreeing with me, I just think you're incapable of thinking critically. The important thing to focus on here is not the means, but the end. However you arrive at the end it doesn't change the outcome, despite the means. Yes, if the decision by a governing body is to physically remove tangible literature from a designated repository of literature, directly as a result from an overly bloated and mismanaged administration that is trying to navigate funding The outcome. Is. The. Same. Call it a tyranny of oppression or a tyranny of incompetence, the governing force is creating a reality that can only rationally be perceived as devolving the spectrum of intelligence so far from a semblance of acceptable reality that it's almost worse if it is a result of incompetence and not as a calculated attempt at overthrowing a freethinking body politic. At least that level of evil is comprehensible.

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Eagle_Arm t1_j7vbuv2 wrote

Tyranny

The college also isn't the government. I don't know if you're incapable of critical and real-world thought or you've just selected your point to argue and keep digging in further.

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ellusiveuser t1_j7vvcxt wrote

Now you're trolling me. And as always, you're criticism is self referential. The administration of a Vermont university is a governing body it governs the operations of the university.

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Eagle_Arm t1_j7vy83i wrote

I wish it was just trolling. It'd be easy enough to do, but not what I'm doing.

So switching from using the word tyranny to govern and trying to make it sound like government? As in, the college is a government?

You do know that a college may "govern" but your now just using it as an adjective. They can also administer. Hell, they could even dictate!

But just because they are dictating, doesn't make them a dictatorship. Just as governing, doesn't make them a government.

It's not a government, it's also not tyrannical. Giving them wheels also wouldn't make them a bicycle.

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ellusiveuser t1_j7w73am wrote

Ok, this has been fun, thanks for understanding my point. Be careful in the storm. Sleep well, talk to you in the morning.

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