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Abitconfusde t1_j7i57r2 wrote

> They are a clear indicator of climate change and some thing that should concern you greatly.

It does, and I may not have been clear. I believe we are living through a slow-motion (for humans... instant in geological time) cataclysm that will cause worldwide death (by war and famine) and disaster by weather events and ecocide. I suspect our course is at this point irreversible without a worldwide "Manhattan project" level of effort in innovation and mindset change. What I read in the comment (but which may not have been intended by its author) was that the pattern foretells tornados or hurricanes or something in the days immediately following the polar vortex.

> The [sic] figure well if it’s hotter, colder, wetter or drier than it should be I can stay inside but that doesn’t do anything to feed us.

True. And as more pollinators die off because they can't stay cool enough or because we think we will increase yields with pesticides, yield will continue to spiral. I suppose I could continue my side rant, but the point is... Yes I'm concerned... panicked even... And when someone suggests a particular weather pattern is alarming, I prick up my ears, because fuck! I'm in a constant state of alarm. Isn't everybody? What makes this particular weather pattern any worse or more alarming than ALL of the other signs telling us that we are on the bullet train to the end of human civilization as we know it?

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Corey307 t1_j7ink54 wrote

Well said. You brought up some good points, that climate change causes cascading environmental failures and that it’s not a slow march toward the end because climate change is accelerating. We’re already past the point of no return due to atmospheric CO2 levels add the methane being released from melting permafrost is only making things worse. If mankind somehow reduced its CO2 emissions by 95% overnight it would not spare us from climate change although it would spare us from the worst of it.

The sad thing is I’ve talked about this a lot of times and I get a lot of people who are convinced that carbon capture will save us or that fusion will give us unlimited clean power so we can start polluting. Fusion is at least a few decades too late and we’re at least 20 years away from it being useful. Carbon capture only works at ground level, atmospheric carbon capture it simply is not possible even if all the worlds governments put trillions of dollars into it we’d still be polluting like hell building the means to capture carbon. I’ve tried explaining to people that we aren’t in a car racing toward a cliff, we’re in a car that already went over the edge.

You’re right that this is only one example and that’s why a lot of people don’t believe what is happening. It’s because they’re blind to what’s going on around the world. People really don’t have the time, don’t care or are too freaked out to pay attention. I’m one of the lucky ones in a way, I didn’t have kids because my family genetics are a crapshoot. I’m staying in New England and buying more land because I genuinely enjoy homesteading snd can try to prepare for a food insecure future.

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