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vexinc t1_j4sm6gj wrote

They should turn it into a holocaust memorial, just to piss on both their graves.

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koz44 t1_j4smhxq wrote

This has the feel of something from Catch-22. Similar to the old man who doesn’t care who is in power, he’s on their side.

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OftheSorrowfulFace t1_j4srco4 wrote

Replying to koz44 (#1,390,729)

>“But Italy was occupied by the Germans and is now being occupied by us. You don’t call that doing very well, do you?”

>“But of course I do,” exclaimed the old man cheerfully. “The Germans are being driven out, and we are still here. In a few years you will be gone, too, and we will still be here. You see, Italy is really a very poor and weak country, and that’s what makes us so strong. Italian soldiers are not dying any more. But American and German soldiers are. I call that doing extremely well. Yes, I am quite certain that Italy will survive this war and still be in existence long after your own country has been destroyed.”

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>Nately gaped at him in undisguised befuddlement. “Now I really don’t understand what you’re saying. You talk like a madman.”

>“But I live like a sane one. I was a fascist when Mussolini was on top, and I am an anti-fascist now that he has been deposed. I was fanatically pro-German when the Germans were here to protect us against the Americans, and now that the Americans are here to protect us against the Germans I am fanatically pro-American. I can assure you, my outraged young friend”—the old man’s knowing, disdainful eyes shone even more effervescently as Nately’s stuttering dismay increased—“that you and your country will have a no more loyal partisan in Italy than me—but only as long as you remain in Italy.”

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thetrashbear t1_j4tcr60 wrote

Replying to vexinc (#1,390,711)

Yeah! Stalin is orders of magnitude more significant than any other single individual in the defeat of Hitler. And he approved of countless Holocaust memorials and memorials for those who lost their lives defeating Hitler and the Nazis. But yes, the two diametrically opposed sides that made up the most significant part of WW2 by far are actually THE SAME.

God help anyone trying to be the world's most simultaneously ignorant and confident person when American redditors are around.

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weeeeeeee___ t1_j4tkgow wrote

They should name it after zelensky now. Fits the poltical climate.

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YubNub81 t1_j4uaobt wrote

Should we be worried about ol' Chuck?

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HolyNewGun t1_j4vj9o0 wrote

Wow, all named after genocidal maniac.

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vexinc t1_j4w2410 wrote

Replying to vexinc (#1,390,711)

Jesus, do I have to spell it out for your fucks?

Stalin was also an Antisemite. In addition to ruthlessly murdering millions of his own people, for fucks sake. 🙄

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GolemancerVekk t1_j4x914l wrote

Replying to HolyNewGun (#1,396,286)

To be fair it used to have other names too. Originally it was named after a famous brigand, Iancu Jianu (sort of a Robin Hood character) who distinguished himself in the Revolution of 1821.

Then it went Adolf Hitler between 1940-1944 and then Stalin until 1962 (which were clear acts of groveling by the regimes at the time).

But for most of the modern era (50 years) it was known as Aviators' Square, since it sits at the end of Aviators' Boulevard.

The change to de Gaulle only happened in the late 1990s. I'm not even sure why they picked him specifically, and why then, seemed a bit out of nowhere. Probably trying to win political favor with the French or something.

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