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choschnebab t1_j4nt2pq wrote

That’s actually really interesting. Today you often only have a handful of colors to choose from.

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houtex727 t1_j4nt4jf wrote

Today you get 10. 3 blues, 3 grays, 2 reds, a black and a white.

Some variety. Although if you went to the Probe-E version, you get 8 colors: 2 grays, 2 blues, and one each white, black, red and orange woo hoo.

Thank you impatient buying public and the box store format for pushing 'what's on the lot' so generic it is. :p

/Go buy a wrap I suppose? Or maybe pay hella lot to paint it...

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A_Fartful_Dodger t1_j4ntabp wrote

And yet when you see a vintage mustang, chances are it’s red, white, or black.

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Full-Mulberry5018 t1_j4nucaf wrote

Brother had a gold '67; Sister had a dark pine green '67; Oldest brother had a different deep green shade '67; Boyfriend had a navy blue '67.

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srone t1_j4nzrny wrote

As someone that used to work in the paint department at car plant, I can say they must have had some insane paint booths, especially before the advent of PLCs. We had an old abandoned control cabinet from a pre-PLC paint booth and I can just say I'm glad I never had to work on it.

Even the modern (20 years ago) array of Color Change Valves (CCVs) are a bear to maintain.

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bk15dcx t1_j4nzsw2 wrote

There's more to it than that.

Typically we have up to 22 colors (lines) in the assembly paint shop.

10-12 of those are standard, then we have limited and municipal.

We can only maintain so many colors/lines due to space and production capacity. The amount of time and money spent on selecting even a basic shade of white is mind boggling.

Also, with too many colors, mistakes in production can be made. I could go on but anytime I talk about vehicle assembly on reddit, people get all experty even though they've never set foot in an assembly plant.

In short, there are dozens of reasons you have 8-12 colors to choose from.

From marketing studies, line restrictions, supplier constraints, cost controls, to formulation, maintenance, vat space, and design selection.

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Pork_Chap t1_j4o0u4h wrote

My first girlfriend drove a Springtime Yellow 1964½ mustang. Her father owned a machine shop and restored old cars as a hobby. I drove a 1987 Grand Am. She was way cooler than me...

...about cars, anyway.

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AgnosticAsian t1_j4o7lk8 wrote

That's because companies found that 99% of people only really picked a handful of colors.

The savings from not stockpiling 47 paint colors outweighed the lost revenue from the 1% of customers picking other colors.

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mustang55 t1_j4oblgb wrote

Mine was a Springtime Yellow and her name was Carly Simon 💛💛💛

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indyphil t1_j4oct5t wrote

There was really only 20 standard paint codes. Which admittedly is still a lot compared to today. But the rest are special order codes and far less common, mostly they were used on special edition mustangs.

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[deleted] t1_j4olrd6 wrote

If I remember correctly from my days working as a ford salesman, you could get 12 colors last year, now I think it's 8.

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MoreTacoPie OP t1_j4on27p wrote

What happened to the days of custom ordering a color that they generally didn’t do? I’ve heard how you could submit the right forms to the right department and wind up with a Cleveland engine (the racing one), other people who were able to secure options and colors not generally offered, but still “factory”, as it were

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[deleted] t1_j4oq9do wrote

You should count again

  1. Silver Frost
  2. Pebble Beige
  3. Springtime Yellow
  4. Raven Black
  5. Frost Turquoise
  6. Acapulco Blue
  7. Arcadian Blue
  8. Diamond Green
  9. Lime Gold
  10. Nightmist Blue
  11. Wimbledon White
  12. Diamond Blue
  13. Brittany Blue
  14. Dusk Rose
  15. Candy Apple Red
  16. Burnt Amber
  17. Clearwater Aqua
  18. Vintage Burgundy met.
  19. Dark Moss Green
  20. Sauterne Gold
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wildstarr t1_j4oqib4 wrote

And for the low, low price of about $2,500.

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MoreTacoPie OP t1_j4or9ul wrote

Which is $22,215.34 today. I have one of these and I’ve had a newer one. I can see why they cost so much more today given how spartan my 67 is.
It’s like driving a machine. New mustangs have so many comforts and doodads, price adds up.

My 67 has like 5 circuits. The most technologically advanced part of the car is the tires. Very little sound deadening. It’s just a big stamped metal box with some paint and vinyl

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Cristoff13 t1_j4os6y1 wrote

How many colours do they have on contemporary cars? Black, white, gunmetal grey and maybe red I suppose.

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plaaya t1_j4oyx6m wrote

We had one of these the same light blue color but it was a mercury cougar 1967 xr7

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cefriano t1_j4p239h wrote

Or maybe most of those 47 colors were ugly and hardly anybody bought them? Why blame the consumers for buying colors that they actually like. Yeah, if you want your car painted puke green, maybe accept that you’ll need spend $1000 or so to get it painted at an aftermarket shop.

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Livebeam t1_j4pk6dw wrote

“A customer can have a car painted any color he wants as long as it’s black” (Henry Ford)

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adamcoe t1_j4plaay wrote

It's a small percentage to be sure but some cars look fucking bad ass with a matte finish. Mustangs indeed are one, depending on the year and if it's been fucked with. And there are some more modern classics (90s Celica?) that can look hip in matte.

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LivingDirt7890 t1_j4pm1ff wrote

Probably only available in red, blue, grey and white now

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genericdude999 t1_j4pr8ih wrote

All the computer iPad shit in cars now, and so many electric motors it would make a 1970s Cadillac blush, but YOU MUST CHOOSE between always-looks-dirty white or black, or some boring ass blue, gray, or red that looks like every other car.

It's not cost of paint, dealers say every other color sits on their lot forever. What are we, Amish?

What irritates me is browns and tans are perfect for trucks and SUVs but they've all vanished like woolly mammoths.

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genericdude999 t1_j4ps11c wrote

A couple of my hard used mountain bikes are gray. On fast descents knobby tires pick up rocks and sling them at the frame, knocking out chips of paint, and also crashes now and then add their scrapes.

The gray bikes look so much better after many miles than my blue one, which looks like a worn consoomer product. Planned obsolescence encouraging you to buy a new one?

Otherwise why not just clear anodize aluminum frames? Since we're talking about cars, some bodies are aluminum, like Ford F-150s, mail trucks, and old Land Rovers. Why not clear anodize those? It would be like having a stainless Cybertruck except lighter.

> Anodizing is a method for changing the surface chemistry of metals and other substrates. It protects against corrosion, enhances aesthetic qualities, resists scratching and is one of the most durable surface finishes available.

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zdakat t1_j4psktk wrote

Gotta catch 'em all!

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va_texan t1_j4pv97b wrote

Now Ford makes 47 different trim levels for each vehicle and 5 colors

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stayuplateandtalk t1_j4pvrce wrote

Today’s boring cars all look alike anyway, so white, black, and silver are a perfect boring match.

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LivingMoreFreely t1_j4py21i wrote

I wish! My first car was a bright orange Opel Rekord. So awesome.

Today it's all grey, black, white, and if you're lucky one red (had the same problem with finding a colorful E-bike).

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Rain1dog t1_j4pzff3 wrote

Bought a 2004 Mach 1 Mustang and loved the fuck out of it. Was such a fun car to drive. I’ve had a RX7, RX8, and the Mach1 and I loved the Mach1 the most with RX7 a very very close second.

The RX8 was pure garbage.

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chain_me_up t1_j4pzfiu wrote

They charge a 5 grand fee pretty much for custom color, BUT you can only get certain colors on certain styles/models still. Two of my favorite colors come on M cars, but I could never get them on the X1 or X2 that I want :/

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Full-Mulberry5018 t1_j4q2eeh wrote

No - my father liked Fords and thought that that particular car was a great first car for his kids to start out with.

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GumPaper t1_j4q2ofh wrote

Well those days are not over like bk has said but rather that a lot of manufacturers have recognized that there are only a few customers who would spend money on a 1 of 1 car so it isn’t profitable for them. Which is why this is mainly now a thing which luxury brands offer. Porsche‘s Exklusiv Manufaktur comes to mind.

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genericdude999 t1_j4q3425 wrote

When I got my little white Toyota I was surprised at how every little puddle painted a Pollock on the side of it. Nature's canvas. Eventually I just ignored it and let it stay dirty, because it looked dirty again right after washing.

My gray vehicle doesn't show dirt unless it's actual mud instead of gray road grime, but of course it's as boring as a galvanized nail.

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Ott3rMadn3ss t1_j4q34s3 wrote

Back in my day, if you had the blue mustang and your buddy had the red one...you could breed the dang suckers and out popped a purple one! And that's how Pokemon got the idea!

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My_Space_page t1_j4q3zba wrote

'You can have the Ford model t in any color you like... as long as that color is black.' Henry Ford

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fuzzygondola t1_j4q6sjd wrote

Another reason is that good colorful paints became very expensive when they banned many of the chemicals that made them bond well and endure weather. Today's colorful paints wouldn't be expensive anymore but people just don't want colors that stand out anymore.

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MoreTacoPie OP t1_j4r06yg wrote

So in the early 1910’s, Henry Ford lived on the same block in Detroit as Rabbi Leo Franklin. The two of them struck up a friendship, and in 1913, Ford asked Albert Kahn, one of the congregants of Franklin’s synagogue and a former Ford employee, to ask Franklin if Franklin wanted a car for use in his rabbinical duties (e.g. visiting the sick). Franklin accepted, and for the next seven years, Ford provided Franklin with a new car every year.

That lasted until 1920, when Ford started publishing “The International Jew” in his newspaper, The Dearborn Independent. This was a highly antisemitic series of articles that promulgated hideous lies regarding the role of Jews in the world. The American Jewish community was horrified, knowing full well that spreading such vicious lies about Jews had historically led to mass murder of Jews. Knowing Ford personally, Franklin was ideally suited to try and convince him to stop publishing the articles — and make that attempt he most certainly did.

Unfortunately, he didn’t succeed. Ford kept running the articles, and Franklin responded by returning the car Ford had given him. Ford was shocked by this, and called Franklin on the phone, wondering why a “good Jew” like Franklin would have any issues with what was being published in The Dearborn Independent.

Ford kept running the articles in the Independent for the next seven years, and when slapped with a libel suit, chose to close the newspaper rather than defend himself. He also kept publishing The International Jew in book form after that point. He only stopped in 1938 after his acceptance of Grand Cross of the German Eagle from Nazi Germany led to a firestorm of protest that negatively impacted sales of Ford cars.

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rainypatricia t1_j4r8oiq wrote

This is my dream car, as in i plan to buy one eventually, good to know I’ll have options lol but I only want yellow 😤

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MoreTacoPie OP t1_j4rd8g4 wrote

I’ve got one. Highly recommend. r/classicmustangs

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Keffpie t1_j4rpxmz wrote

Didn't know they were that progressive back then!

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evilfollowingmb t1_j4rssaz wrote

My mom had one…it was “Dusk Rose” which is kind of a pale pink. I was later given this car to drive to High School. Let’s just say if you are a dude, driving a pink car to HS is a great way to learn about life’s trade offs.

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TastyBullfrog2755 t1_j4rv05x wrote

They had to keep enticing secretaries and assistant managers to buy them.

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monchota t1_j4s5nys wrote

Now you can't buy more than 4 colors for s car.

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guimontag t1_j4svydg wrote

Mustangs were cheap cars back then. They didn't have some premium as sports cars, they cost less because they had 2 less doors, less interior space, and other than the engine really they were just overall less materials and time to make. They used a bunch of common parts from other Ford cars also of course.

:edit:just looked it up, the list price of a mustang on launch was equivalent to 20k today. Not an expensive car at all

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houtex727 t1_j4twq8n wrote

Later on, I reply.. :)

I totally get what you're saying. But you didn't see my list of 'options', which really aren't when you get down to it. Blues, Grays and Reds. White and black are really gray scale colors, so it's more like 5 grays, 3 blues and 2 reds. Which is woeful.

I totally get the reasons and all that but c'mon. Mustang's more exciting than that paltry list of color options.

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Livebeam t1_j4ugvrs wrote

Yeah, that’s true. But it's really curious why Henry Ford chose only black. There's a theory that black dried faster than any other color. This fact influenced a lot in boosting production.

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