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WinterWontStopComing t1_j5zjrbq wrote

Reply to comment by Pfeffer_Prinz in TIL of Complex PTSD, which arises from prolonged, inescapable trauma (like child abuse/neglect, sex trafficking, or solitary confinement). It's hard to spot & treat, and can last a lifetime. Victims have a diminished sense of self, and issues with trust, boundaries, cognition, motor skills, & more. by Pfeffer_Prinz

It’s amazing how PTSD and in utero developmental disorders can have such overlapping symptom manifestation. Like I was diagnosed as having ASD and PTSD among a few other things (not CPTSD) though some potential recovered memory fragments since would possibly suggest chronic would be a fit

But I often wonder if the ASD could be a misdiagnosis of how CPTSD interplays with my other issues as I have what seems like some very obvious tells that I am on the spectrum but even understanding what is meant by spectrum there is a little cause for pause.

I dunno, random thought I felt like sharing

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newlypeaceful t1_j6068ew wrote

My therapist had me watch some Gabor Mate as part of my cPTSD healing, and his video on attachment and brain development discusses in utero impacts and childhood trauma. I think it also delves into implicit vs explicit memory. You’re spot on.

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WinterWontStopComing t1_j60kxjh wrote

Thank you for sharing the link. And thank you otherwise. I must have been paying attention during the several years of intense therapy 😂

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Pseudonymico t1_j60rqe3 wrote

I’m pretty sure my autism caused the horrific bullying in school that gave me my cptsd.

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WinterWontStopComing t1_j60shyh wrote

Childhood bullying is such a long-standing pervasive thing. I still deal with emotional outbursts time to time over stuff from sixth through twelfth grade.

I’m sorry you had to go through what you did though. It had to be pretty bad I’m guessing

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SeladorSmith t1_j60aq60 wrote

The symptoms of Asperger's syndrome are very close/identical with the supposed symptoms of childhood trauma, and in fact the original suspected cause of Asperger's and autism was childhood neglect (Google the term 'refrigerator mothers')

Eventually it became politically insensitive to suggest that autism could be caused by childhood abuse and neglect, and suddenly we have so called diseases like C-PTSD cropping up describing a similar set of symptoms

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dog_of_society t1_j61zjv7 wrote

I've heard the same, but with cause and effect reversed - they're not inherently the same, but that autism is so linked to a traumatic childhood (whether it be bullying for being "different", abuse, harmful ABA therapy, etc) that nearly all autistic people also present with signs of trauma, and researchers can't reliably tell what's the autism and what's the trauma.

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WinterWontStopComing t1_j60lg18 wrote

There is always overlap though. Look at a Venn diagram of ASD and ADHD.

And I didn’t downvote you just fyi. I don’t exactly agree with what you said completely as I think you are insinuating ASD to be an artificial construct to a degree but I don’t see it as something worth a downer.

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