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OTee_D t1_j6mpj1q wrote

The term is reused in modern management principles and refers to ritualistic actions in companies that are useless but just adhered to 'tradition' or because 'someone says'.

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Nazamroth t1_j6n6ifu wrote

Hey, it works for the Mechanicus. Now, toll the great bell once: with push of button engage piston and pump.

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Jampine t1_j6ndg0i wrote

I love in Steel Tread there's a blood sacrifice ritual for basically restarting the tank engine.

Highly heretical, but it works.

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Nazamroth t1_j6ngxow wrote

Storm of Steel, i think it was? Where the iron warriors assault the gene seed planet. The guardsman has to chant the Hymn of Firing or whatever its called, but he doesnt know what that is.

So he gets frustrated, starts shouting FIRE YOU DAMN THING! and smashes a button with his fist. And lo and behold, the machine spirit listens.

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Jampine t1_j6nmp5u wrote

The imperial infantrymans uplifting primer has all the prayers at the end.

Though that strategy reminds me of Black Bess from Battlefield One; "She likes it when you swear".

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flibbidygibbit t1_j6njdfq wrote

We had a C-level executive who wanted our site to be as feature-rich as Amazon because they're the leader in e-commerce.

He wanted us to disregard actual customer requests to insert Amazon's features into our e-comm platform.

Umm, our product is niched down. We will never have "Earth's biggest selection" or whatever. Our store customers don't want anything distracting users from placing items in the cart and checking out.

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tmccnt t1_j6peu9e wrote

We also use this term in engineering if people just copy things that may work to some extend without knowing why.

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TLDReddit73 t1_j6nbg9r wrote

This makes me sad. They were just wanting some stuff to fall from the sky like they had seen. They couldn’t figure out why it wasn’t working for them.

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Perpetual_Doubt t1_j6oojeb wrote

Little did they know that the true magic ritual to cause US military supplies to be dropped on the island was to sink the USS Arizona

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Reddit-runner t1_j6ogxxd wrote

But that's exactly the same as for any other religion!

Same bs, but since it's routed in culture most people don't realise it.

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DMRexy t1_j6oksuz wrote

At least their religion has some basis in reality, even if they got the details wrong.

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A_brown_dog t1_j6p1y07 wrote

That's the point, they literally saw gifts coming from heaven and some people riding chariots of fire flying through the skies, that religion is the only real one so far

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Lordxeen t1_j6p5e11 wrote

Religion has been compared watching a rabbit run into a tree stump and break its neck… then spending the rest of your life looking at the stump waiting for it to happen again.

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Cubusphere t1_j6mt9dj wrote

It's a great example of the fallacious conclusion that when two things happen one after another, the first must have caused the second."Post hoc ergo propter hoc"

Another could be rain dances.

  • It's dry, so we try to appease the gods/spirits/whatever.
  • After Bill danced for a day, it started raining.
  • Bill's dance made it rain.
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AlanZero t1_j6mv9dq wrote

Son, I am disappoint… that you didn’t link a certain clip from The West Wing where Bartlet explains post hoc ergo propter hoc.

Therefore - [here it is] (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HL_vHDjG5Wk).

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Cubusphere t1_j6mwvrm wrote

Never watched the show. Even wikipedia links to that episode :)

>This article is about the informal fallacy. For the West Wing episode, see Post Hoc, Ergo Propter Hoc (The West Wing). For other uses, see Post hoc.

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LeicaM6guy t1_j6n3isy wrote

Man, we didn't deserve a show that good.

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redbanjo t1_j6otnip wrote

Every time I rewatch an episode I'm just stunned at how good it was.

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Pifanjr t1_j6newun wrote

With the rain dance one there is some speculation that the dust being kicked up and thrown in the air during the dances actually could cause an increased chance of rain to fall, under the right conditions.

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Pifanjr t1_j6o0qts wrote

I did stumble upon this during my quick Google search: https://ultraphyte.com/2012/01/08/rain-dance-makes-rain/

It says that it's actually microbes, not dust, that is responsible for rain forming. Something I've never heard of before.

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ShitPostGuy t1_j6p9ptt wrote

That article says that bacteria may be the source of nucleation to form rain, absolutely nothing about whether a rain dance and kick ground-born bacteria/particles the needed 6,500 feet (1.2 miles) into the air to interact with rain clouds.

Use your brain

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Djinjja-Ninja t1_j6ngurq wrote

The craziest one has to be the Prince Philip Movement, where they believed that Prince Philip was divine.

Its to do with them seeing the amount of respect that was shown to Queen Elizabeth II, so therefore her husband must be even more powerful so they deified him.

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bolanrox t1_j6mnldz wrote

There is a cult to prince Philip as well

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Eoin_McLove t1_j6omfvg wrote

Have you seen the documentary where they visited Prince Phillip at Buckingham Palace? Fascinating stuff.

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bolanrox t1_j6ooqk0 wrote

no but i had read about the visits.

Sounds like after the mourning period of the Queen they are moving on to Charles.

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Successful-Cash5047 t1_j6no1j4 wrote

This has to be my favorite obscure fact! They would go all out too, they’d make fully decked out mock runways, complete with mock airplanes out of straw, a landing strip, and even mock air traffic control towers with torches mimicking the lights. They would build them as high up as they reasonably could. They would also ritually perform drill instructions with wooden mock guns! If I remember correctly the whole religion started from the abrupt arrival of U.S troops, who shared some of their canned food with the locals, they viewed it as literal mana from heaven!! The craziest thing is that this was going on in the 70’s (and I believe to a lesser extent still to this day!)

This is such an obscure, bizarre, and captivating topic, I’d highly recommend watching a YouTube video on the subject!

Video on cargo cults:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qmlYe2KS0-Y&t=5s

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undulatee t1_j6obsq8 wrote

A great example of why they follow the Prime Directive in Star Trek

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chrispybobispy t1_j6n54z3 wrote

That was a fun rabbit hole to go down

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Mitthrawnuruo t1_j6nx0rk wrote

Check out the book dream island. Talks about them, and is a fun story.

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101Alexander t1_j6ooxte wrote

For anyone that wants to see a more modern and relatable example, remember r/wallstreetbets after GME spiked?

It wasn't even general interest in stock trading, just GME that was the magic ticket. All that had to happen was the scenario be recreated. Then somehow AME theatres became the magic ticket.

Now I dont know what water ritual is popular these days, but nowadays they sacrifice money instead of blood.

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emende21 t1_j6ozdnf wrote

hodl hodl hodl

(Saying that in the mirror 3 times, takes you to the moon)

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Farrell-Mars t1_j6n3ssd wrote

This is all you need to know about religion.

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Somethingmorbid t1_j6ni0ip wrote

Say what you will about cargo cults, but what's the last thing you got from Abrahamic god?

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Mitthrawnuruo t1_j6nwxqz wrote

A happy marriage?

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SloanDaddy t1_j6pdq9b wrote

Giving sky man credit for what you did yourself.

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Mitthrawnuruo t1_j6pfksf wrote

Sky man provides rules, boundaries and guidance.

I’ve don’t know if you met humans. But we’re pretty awful without outside forces.

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IllCamel5907 t1_j6nqq0i wrote

No more ridiculous than any other religion. At least the cargo drops were real... compared to Jesus coming back lol.

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Mitthrawnuruo t1_j6nwt9e wrote

I learned about cargo cults from An old time pulp fiction book, and is crazy in how under rated it is.

Dream Park.

Check it out.

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andrewh2000 t1_j6p71qa wrote

"old time pulp fiction book"? Cheers, I read that when it was published! And I only just read the last in the series - 'The Moon Maze Game'.

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Mitthrawnuruo t1_j6pajjj wrote

Oh, I don’t think I knew about that one.

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andrewh2000 t1_j6paylp wrote

No, I only found out about it a couple of weeks ago despite it being published in 2011.

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darw1nf1sh t1_j6oit61 wrote

You really should read Island of the Sequined Love Nun. No seriously. Go now.

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KorungRai t1_j6ojo52 wrote

Was going to say the same. It was my introduction to Christopher Moore 25 years ago and have read everything of his since. It’s hilarious

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darw1nf1sh t1_j6oma6l wrote

I know that others in the thread have said the same, but it bears repeating. Every time I read some post about Cargo Cults, I answer the same way lol.

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GuyTallman t1_j6n7flz wrote

There is a fun side quest in Borderlands regarding this

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BillTowne t1_j6nkr7l wrote

One guy built himself a "refrigerator," and kept opening the door hoping to find beer inside.

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srcarruth t1_j6o26ix wrote

Cargo Cult was the theme for Burning Man a few years ago, fun stuff

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ophaus t1_j6nf5gy wrote

REALLY fascinating stuff. Humans love to add meaning to the senselessness of life... it's an adorable habit.

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Samuel7899 t1_j6nivuv wrote

Life is a pattern of persisting. Persisting is directly improved by having a more accurate model of one's surroundings. An accurate model of the environment is developed by developing and improving patterns.

It's the reason we're alive today, and why we've developed intelligence.

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Futhermucker t1_j6p6ru7 wrote

ugh, don't these islanders know that they're worshiping evil colonialism?

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light24bulbs t1_j6nom42 wrote

That is one bad Wikipedia article

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squashcanada t1_j6oeqhs wrote

I wonder if anyone, as a joke, flew a plane over their villages, dropping gift packages.

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bowlbinater t1_j6p0oh4 wrote

Adeptus Mechanicus confirmed.

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MacDugin t1_j6pil0n wrote

“Bobby, do the airdrop dance, I am sure it will work this time!”

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mandu_xiii t1_j6o9h36 wrote

Here 8n North America, we call this Christmas.

We set up a tree and hope that a magical old man brings us stuff.

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Plane_Crab_8623 t1_j6mvgtk wrote

The USA is a cargo cult.

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