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yoniyum t1_iz2y3qd wrote

And then January 6 is Epiphany, which begins Carnival, which leads to Mardi Gras then Ash Wednesday, which begins Lent, then Easter!

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BrokenEye3 t1_iz314np wrote

That sounds exhausting.

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yoniyum t1_iz31d0k wrote

I think so, too! I've never understood the folks who are go-go-go and thrive on all that celebrating and socializing. I'm sure they don't understand why I sit at home so much, haha.

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RainbowEmpire t1_iz32ifr wrote

I will only support this much celebration if we get them as paid holidays. I would celebrate the shit out of it.

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usrevenge t1_iz43ixk wrote

Iirc in peasant times all these were paid holidays basically.

The average person who works 40 hours a week works significantly more hours a year than they would have as a peasant.

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CryptidGrimnoir t1_iz49pb2 wrote

And by comparison, it's forty hours in an office as opposed to x number of hours working backbreaking labor on a farm, for crops they had to give to their fiefdom.

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LittleGreenSoldier t1_iz53ynv wrote

From a farming family here.

There's really only two periods per year where the work is that hard, even pre-industrial, and that's plowing and harvesting. Each is a sort of two week crunch time. The rest of the year is actually pretty chill, you get into a routine.

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canalrhymeswithanal t1_iz9yikr wrote

Then why the hell America need to enslave so many people? Should've just gone to a temp agency.

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LittleGreenSoldier t1_iza20lr wrote

Cotton is a way more labour intensive crop. The bolls had to be picked by hand, and because they're mostly air they take up a huge volume, meaning more trips back and forth to empty your basket/sack/whatever. In addition to that, there was a MASSIVE upswing in demand for cotton because of the industrial revolution, and the mechanization of textile manufacturing. Suddenly machines could card, spin and weave cotton faster than a hundred people could. With that skyrocketing demand came the plantations, just like with sugar in the Caribbean; huge monoculture farms planting on an industrial scale. You can pay workers to do that, but buying a slave is an upfront cost equal to about a year's wages for a free worker, and you have that slave until they die. Buy a woman and you can make more slaves for no additional cost.

It's monstrous, but they considered it solely an economical decision.

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canalrhymeswithanal t1_iza2fgv wrote

I should've added the /s tag, but also this was informative and I appreciate that.

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Sintarus t1_iz5m9k7 wrote

Except for everyone who works a physical job, who: checks notes is a shit ton of people.

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worthrone11160606 t1_iz4etgz wrote

That is absolutely not true though.

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Jumpy-Win5810 t1_iz6fpu6 wrote

It's very true. Peasants had lots of time off. They used this time to complete tasks that we don't have today. Mostly, they went out gathering natural materials needed to produce household items/foods/medicine.

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worthrone11160606 t1_iz6kfdo wrote

They did not have lots of time off. If by time off you mean getting the field ready for the next harvest, hunting for food, war and famine and all that other stuff fhan yeah they had time off

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bk15dcx t1_iz330fw wrote

Seriously. Thanksgiving, then pearl harbor day, the Christmas and new year, then MLK day, then Superbowl, then Valentine's day, then president's day, then st. Patrick's day... You can't go more than 2 weeks without getting totally plastered

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herbw t1_iz6xh4l wrote

Try moving to UK. Lots easier there.

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critfist t1_iz3dnes wrote

Probably a welcome break when most of your life in the past was brutality and back breaking labour.

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BrokenEye3 t1_iz3jppy wrote

I don't think they got holidays off back then. Certainly not 4-5 straight months of holidays off.

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TheConqueror74 t1_iz56lwj wrote

They did, but the nature of work was different than it is now. There’s a reason why the fall and winter are so dense with holidays and you don’t see nearly as many during the warmer months.

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Jumpy-Win5810 t1_iz6g6qj wrote

People thinking that peasants lived lives of brutal back breaking labor is perhaps on the most common misperceptions I can think of. I was guilty of it myself until I learned that premodern peasants actually had much more time off than modern peasants.

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Traditional-Meat-549 t1_iz5htqh wrote

At least in Europe, they were mostly Christian with towns built around the church - so what the church did, they did. Not exactly a day "off" as we know it - most folks knew each other and the work they performed. But they did go to Mass and the after party

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Spram2 t1_iz51goy wrote

What else are you going to do during winter? work? on the fields? There's too much snow!

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HauntedHippie OP t1_iz33hbd wrote

I never understood why they crammed it all into one half of the year. And then it's just... Ordinary Time.

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Van_GOOOOOUGH t1_iz38vih wrote

Because winter time can be so dreary and depressing so they put a bunch of festive little holidays in there to keep us busy. We don't need festive holidays when the weather is pleasant and we can play outside in the sunshine.

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TheyCallMeSuperChunk t1_iz3rzma wrote

> when the weather is pleasant and we can play outside in the sunshine.

Or, you know, work the land

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herbw t1_iz6xcfx wrote

That explains it in Hawaii and Corpus Christi, sure.

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bk15dcx t1_iz32qme wrote

Then there's more stuff after Easter. The feast of something or other, then that runs another month. I forgot all that stuff but it was ridiculous

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Traditional-Meat-549 t1_iz3526x wrote

Pentecost - 50 days.

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Ignorhymus t1_iz4nk5r wrote

I was about to say Whitsun (only know it because we get a holiday here), but apparently that's the same as Pentecost. Though that does lead into another 7 days of whitsuntide

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herbw t1_iz6x7km wrote

mardi gras is carnival time.

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yoniyum t1_iz7o990 wrote

They’re not synonymous. Carnival is the season, Mardi Gras is the day.

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herbw t1_iz7q6n3 wrote

So it varies year to year, culture to culture. Am only fam with NO and in Rio. Other than those, it's peripheral to important events.

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yoniyum t1_iz7qmut wrote

In which cultures are they the same? (Sincerely asking because I want to learn…hence being in this sub.)

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herbw t1_izdxupb wrote

Mardi gras & Carnival are all part of the same celebrations in Catholic systems. No protestant churches celebrate mardi gras nor Carnival. What yer doing is saying that movement 1 of a symphony bears no relationships to the rest of the whole musical piece.

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yoniyum t1_izetoh8 wrote

Yes, they are part of the same celebration. Carnival is the season, Mardi Gras is the day -- just like I already said.

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herbw t1_izgti76 wrote

but not clearly, not as you just wrote.

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yoniyum t1_izgw3is wrote

> Carnival, which leads to Mardi Gras

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CryptoCentric t1_iz3jjxz wrote

January 6 was definitely an epiphany in the US.

I'll see myself out.

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