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Landlubber77 t1_j0wtwgh wrote

That's just a good goddamn song, man.

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jayrocksd t1_j0wvagv wrote

I can see why Quincy Jones heard this demo, and thought the song was perfect for Michael (with a rewrite of the verses of course.)

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progodyssey t1_j0wwt9m wrote

Part of Toto's underrated run of three consecutive Grammys (their own, with Quincy, and as the band on Thriller).

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mnfimo t1_j0wwwmy wrote

Key members of Toto were the studio musicians for Thriller among other MJ albums.

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EQOA_Fanatic OP t1_j0x837d wrote

Dude, I wrote this in a comment in another thread earlier, but it must have been wild to live in this time with this music. All these world-famous, amazing artists and producers all working together on multiple projects and ultimately producing some of the most timeless music in the last 50 years... must have been insane to see in-person.

Today's music often does not seem nearly as carefully crafted. Not to say it's bad by any stretch of the imagination. There are some amazing artists writing great music today. But I don't see many artists approaching music the way Quincy Jones and Michael Jackson did in the 80s. What producer today writes an album from the approach of "Treat evert song as it's own isolated single"? Who's selling millions of albums in one week in 2022 besides maybe Taylor Swift? Michael Jackson was doing it in the 80s for multiple weeks in a row, in a pre-modern internet, pre-streaming, pre-downloading era of the world.

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MrPushaNZ t1_j0xlj9s wrote

The MJ version is infinitely better. Not taking anything away from toto though, that chorus and the overarching cs80 progression and the hard panned backing is sooooo good. Easily one of my fav Jackson songs

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srslybr0 t1_j0zlhq6 wrote

human nature definitely sounds like a toto song. jackson's version was much better but the ethereal quality of the song definitely indicates its origins.

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dixadik t1_j19357h wrote

Not to be pedantic, but Human Nature was not written for Toto IV . Steve himself says that they were mixing Africa (the final track on Toto IV) and that is when his daughter had the incident at school that inspired the use of the phrase as a song title.

https://youtu.be/O8DBBEol9JU?t=92

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Spoogen_1 t1_j1mey10 wrote

Also the lead singer to Toto is the son of John Williams, the famous composer.

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