wheresmattynow t1_ixvi17r wrote
Now do Liberia in 2022.
MatiusX t1_iy979lc wrote
Perhaps a little more relevantly, though not as recently,
>It is estimated that at the beginning of the 20th century, up to 40% of blacks in the [United States] South were trapped in peonage.
...a number that, to my limited knowledge, remained at a steady level, particularly in Alabama, up until Bailey v. Alabama in 1911, (which abolished the state's illegal and loophole-y neo-slavery provisions), and after that did not decrease significantly until the signing of Circular 3591 on December 1941, which led to a rapid-fire series of arrests and prosecutions, yadda yadda, last black slave freed in October of 1942. Ignoring modern, more or less color-blind human trafficking, of course.
Very interesting topic, especially if you ignore the happy ending and remember that segregation persisted until 1964, and its effects persists to this day.
wheresmattynow t1_iyc9ibt wrote
Very interesting topic, especially if you ignore than millions of people live in literal slavery in Liberia and the Middle East right now.
absolutelyshafted t1_ixw7pyr wrote
Textbook example of whataboutism
wheresmattynow t1_ixw825t wrote
yes what about the millions enslaved right now in Liberia
what , not convenient to talk about slavery when talking about slavery?
Frosty_404 t1_ixwaphy wrote
People don't wanna think about how bad other people/countries/races are. Only white North Americans and Western Europeans are bad. Never mind the atrocities being committed around the world every day.
absolutelyshafted t1_ixwbmla wrote
White people get a bit more flak than others because they called themselves morally superior for hundreds of years.
You can’t have extremely brutal slavery in the 1800’s, and then prison slavery also targeted at blacks in the 1900’s, and call yourself morally superior. It just doesn’t work
Frosty_404 t1_ixwd23m wrote
Oh don't get me wrong we're awful. We do awful shit all the time. But so does everyone else IIRC Iran is supposed to be executing some 14,000 prisoners from the protests and is saying the virgin women should be raped first so they can't go to heaven. You can't have that going on in the world and say whites are the only bad people
absolutelyshafted t1_ixwomds wrote
Yeah but nobody actually says that
The thing is white people have always claimed to be the better ones in comparison to everyone else INCLUDING in terms of atrocities and whatnot. This was a dominant ideology for the past 100 years and just recently has fallen out of favor. And even today it’s still super common for whites to claim that Africans and East Asians are the most brutal and apathetic races in terms of genocide
This whole thing of “yeah maybe whites did slavery on a mass scale among other thing, but look these other people did stuff like that too” is a classic example of whataboutism
FrankieGrimes213 t1_ixwpxvl wrote
As a white person, I was raised with the idea no matter white people do as a race, Asian people will do it better. I was never taught whites were superior, just typically efficient.
And people who claim whataboutism typically hide behind that word so they don't have to have introspection on their hypocrisy.
billbuild t1_iy25i5b wrote
> I was never taught whites were superior, just typically efficient.
Pretty efficient system of transplanting people across oceans to make their production of cotton, tobacco and sugar efficient for generations. The pretty efficient to call the same people they raped, killed, child molested dangerous when that brutal practice ended creating the highest levels of incarceration in the world for shit like selling weed and drugs that were brought into the country by the heirs of their oppressors. That’s some efficacy right there, be proud and tell your kids how smart great grandma and grandpa were! Or just vote to ban the books, either way.
FrankieGrimes213 t1_iy26278 wrote
Again, look to the Asians for the highest incarceration. They always do things bigger.
Your rants if full of nonsense and just isn't fact. But keep telling yourself that
billbuild t1_iy26jmx wrote
FrankieGrimes213 t1_ixwpgs1 wrote
People who claim whataboutism usually have a hard time facing their hypocrisy
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