ALifeLongLearner t1_iu82xy8 wrote
Reply to comment by CrieDeCoeur in TIL that Richard Feynman, one of the greatest theoretical physicists ever, was rejected admission to Columbia University because of his Jewish ancestry and instead went to MIT. by icbm67
He also banged the wives of all his colleagues.
icbm67 OP t1_iu85i63 wrote
Yeah. Read about that too. Wikipedia says: "He liked to date undergraduates, hire prostitutes, and sleep with the wives of friends."
rmphys t1_iu8ubkr wrote
And his students. He'd have been canned for sexual harassments almost instantly today (and to be clear, he should have been, I'm not complaining about today's standards. The man was a menace to women in science, but that was accepted back then)
EpsomHorse t1_iu93uga wrote
> And his students.
Who are we to judge the consensual activities that adults choose to partake in?
> He'd have been canned for sexual harassments almost instantly today
No he wouldn't. Even in the puritanical America of 2022, relationships with students are perfectly licit as long as you're not currently teaching them.
> The man was a menace to women in science
Nonsense. There hasn't been a single accusation against him for derailing someone's career, preventing them from getting scholarships, or any other abuse of power.
HPmoni t1_iubxld8 wrote
Eh. James Franco's career isn't what it was a decade ago.
Women hate the power imbalance.
VeryJoyfulHeart59 t1_iu9tt4g wrote
>There hasn't been a single accusation against him for derailing someone's career, preventing them from getting scholarships, or any other abuse of power.
Mr. Horse, this logic is so wrong.
SoItWasYouAllAlong t1_iu9v01y wrote
It is weak evidence. However, in the absence of evidence to the contrary, weak evidence is still evidence.
VeryJoyfulHeart59 t1_iu9wbki wrote
He was a bit before my time, but even in my day I wouldn't have even thought of complaining about such a thing. That's just the way it was.
Edit: typo (would should have been wouldn't)
SoItWasYouAllAlong t1_iu9yx8v wrote
I can imagine that the practice of filing formal complaints didn't exist. But if Feynman was destroying people's careers, that should have been known to everyone the field. It would have been knowledge of vital importance to his colleagues, not just gossip interest.
Besides, "The man was a menace to women in science": now that is a claim that has not been substantiated in this thread.
VeryJoyfulHeart59 t1_iua134g wrote
The thing is, it wasn't thought of as destroying a women's career. Those women just didn't build careers.
This is an extreme analogy, but it would be like saying that you destroyed your dog's career.
SoItWasYouAllAlong t1_iua9lef wrote
Ok, but was the existence of these sexual relations at all correlated to the women's career outcomes? "Frisky Feynman was a menace to women in science", without concrete specifics to support it, sounds to me like the one making the claim doesn't realize that women like sex too. As far as I can tell, Feynman was very handsome and witty.
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VeryJoyfulHeart59 t1_iuaxmn9 wrote
Good grief, that's obviously not what I meant.
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VeryJoyfulHeart59 t1_iub28i8 wrote
Sorry, I see my typo now.
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