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Kevin_Wolf t1_iuf1x0k wrote
I grew up with crazy hippy parents that insisted carob was a chocolate substitute. IMO, it's not, they just say that it is.
DanYHKim t1_iuf3r0v wrote
Edit: this is of course, pretty much exactly what was posted. I intended to paste this to my Facebook, and got mixed up. Oops.
Carob seeds were used in balance scales. Gold and gems, being precious, were weighed out in tiny quantities, and so small counterweights were needed.
>How did the carat system start?
>The modern carat system started with the carob seed. Early gem traders used the small, uniform seeds as counterweights in their balance scales. The carat is the same gram weight in every corner of the world.
https://4cs.gia.edu/interactive-4cs/carat-weight/origins.html
Adrian_Alucard t1_iuf7oj9 wrote
In Spain is used by the farmers to feed their livestock, so it's not really seen as substitute of nothing, is just food for animals
DamianFullyReversed t1_iufalu3 wrote
Yeah, I can tell the difference myself. Carob feels chocolatey, but the aftertaste is different imo
zholo t1_iufe4is wrote
What did it taste like? Is it actually chocolatey?
monkeytoes90 t1_iufhka0 wrote
Native Americans used the seeds of the plant Canna Indica, common name Indian shot or African arrowroot, for the exact same purpose due to a uniform weight/size as well. In addition to it being a staple starch source! https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canna_indica
JamesTheJerk t1_iufiarv wrote
They press it into bars just like chocolate and it looks identical. If doing a blind test with dark chocolate and carob I wouldn't be able to tell which was which.
locks_are_paranoid t1_iufo3o5 wrote
It doesn't even make sense why hippies are anti-chocolate
Kevin_Wolf t1_iufofoh wrote
Not really. They can doctor it up to make something kind of resembling chocolate, but it's like saying Nerds are a substitute for Sour Patch Kids. They're both sour candy, but that's about where the similarity ends.
You can't really use carob chips like you can use chocolate chips, and the taste is drier, and nuttier/earthier than chocolate. That's also not saying it's bad, it's just not chocolate.
Delysid52 t1_iufriyy wrote
Depends on where the chocolate comes from but huge exploitation of people in the cocoa industry
odaeyss t1_iufxmx2 wrote
no, not at all, i'd rather eat baking chocolate, ADULTS LIE TO YOU DON'T TRUST THEM US
Houndsthehorse t1_iug25ha wrote
The slavery tends to leave a bad taste
Socky_McPuppet t1_iug2c9l wrote
> If doing a blind test with dark chocolate and carob I wouldn't be able to tell which was which.
That's crazy, they taste totally different to me. Carob doesn't taste anything like chocolate to me.
JamesTheJerk t1_iug44yv wrote
Specifically dark chocolate.
lumentec t1_iug51nl wrote
https://www.merriam-webster.com/words-at-play/usage-carat-vs-karat
> A carat is a unit of weight used to measure the size of a gemstone such as a diamond. A karat is a measurement indicating the proportion of gold in an alloy out of 24 parts, so 18K gold is 18/24 parts gold.
HoiPolloiAhloi t1_iug8x6z wrote
Wat about a carrot
lumentec t1_iuga8lq wrote
Definition:
Delicious when dipped in ranch.
DJDaddyD t1_iugaxdn wrote
It’s mocklate
nygaff t1_iugbi6e wrote
Came here to say exactly this^. The early 90's was not a fun time to be a little kid 🤣
8ad8andit t1_iugdi2k wrote
There is plenty of fair trade, sustainably grown, organic chocolate out there these days.
But back in the day it was a little more scarce.
8ad8andit t1_iugdtmy wrote
Everything goes better with ranch.
Can you imagine being the inventor of such a popular food?
Just imagine how many other undiscovered flavors are out there, that could make you a multi-millionaire.
AnalTrajectory t1_iughrp8 wrote
Same here. Health nut parents always tried to convince us that carob was better. It's not, and you can't convince me otherwise.
Seasquatch t1_iugmxry wrote
I see you also listened to Lateral! Great podcast.
grating t1_iugoyjm wrote
It's about as tasty as sawdust. One of the more revolting hippy fad foods. I've even seen it sweetened with stevia, which is a revolting fad sugar substitute. The food equivalent of hairshirts and flagellation,
Remarkable-Storm-738 t1_iugt1p2 wrote
I've tried cocoa beans before and they actually have a surprisingly nutty taste and texture, also pretty dry. Sounds similar to me lol
Implausibilibuddy t1_iugusyk wrote
You'll need a Zeio nut for that, Carob will only get you as far as black.
Implausibilibuddy t1_iugv7cq wrote
What? No, EU sizes are based on 2/3rds of a centimetre, or Paris Points. Are you getting confused with UK sizes? Those weren't based on carob nuts, but barleycorns - the length of an average corn of barley.
jereman75 t1_iugvcgu wrote
Nobody knows.
FinanceAnalyst t1_iugwn34 wrote
I guess the irony of drumming up demand for any product tends to cause race to the bottom and labor exploitation is lost upon these folks.
52MeowCat t1_iugx86y wrote
Ok, I looked it up and you're right, it is not based on it it is just that carob seeds can be used to estimate shoe size because of their consistency.
Mosacyclesaurus t1_iugz3u4 wrote
So funny, I'm here in the backcountry area of Alicante today and discovered leftover carob pods in the fields. I get the chocolate taste but it tastes more like tamarind to me, just drier. I was wondering what they were using it for.
AmusingAnecdote t1_iugzj52 wrote
Carob tastes more like cocoa than it does like chocolate, but when you try and make it taste more like chocolate, it still tastes more like cocoa, it doesn't really get closer to tasting like chocolate when made into a bar or a chip or whatever. I agree with the people saying it isn't bad, it's frequently very good, but it doesn't taste like chocolate.
Alexstarfire t1_iuh1e7v wrote
Nerds are sour?
Alexstarfire t1_iuh1jgd wrote
The trick is to eat the chocolate, not the slaves.
Seriously though, this is one of the downsides of globalization. Hard to keep unethical labor practices out of the process. Even harder for the consumer to know.
Alexstarfire t1_iuh1lgi wrote
0k, but surprisingly not that cold.
Alexstarfire t1_iuh1n5s wrote
>Everything goes better with ranch.
Dare you try it with chocolate ice cream. In fact, I double dog dare you.
Mosacyclesaurus t1_iuh30vh wrote
They are not, but Carob is caffeine free, unlike chocolat.
boowhitie t1_iuh3zw5 wrote
Yes, I felt so betrayed by my hippie parents for this.
my4coins t1_iuh7ea7 wrote
What about karate?
jaggervalance t1_iuh83vf wrote
Really? As a kid I loved eating wild carub when in the country.
Amaranthine t1_iuh88um wrote
I assume barley/poppyseeds are also pretty consistent, which is why UK (and US) sizes are based off that :)
So for anyone wondering what one shoe size is and why it doesn't quite map with centimeters... it's because 1 US size is a barleycorn, which = 1/3 of an inch; close enough that sizes will more or less map to 1cm (2.54cm per inch), but not qute.
VoiceOfRealson t1_iuha1cu wrote
>Seriously though, this is one of the downsides of globalization. Hard to keep unethical labor practices out of the process. Even harder for the consumer to know.
Arguably modern globalization makes it easier for the consumer to know about unethical labor practices (internet/smartphones and all), but the global supply chain can be used to cover up, specifically where those products go.
In the old days you had to send people to manually inspect every step of the transport process to catch whether somebody was introducing shady products into the supply stream.
These days you have to do the same.
apageofthedarkhold t1_iuhdnvh wrote
Any religion that embraces carob is, uh, not for Carl Carlson...
otherkerry t1_iuhpyvh wrote
One of the many things that sucked about being a kid in the 70s—my parents weren’t hippies but I think my mom got the carob at Diet Center or health food stores. Thank goodness grandmas house and her cookie tins were right around the corner.
Kevin_Wolf t1_iuhy3ak wrote
We're complaining about carob being substituted for chocolate. Carob is fine, but it doesn't work as chocolate.
jaggervalance t1_iuhys3n wrote
It doesn't, but OP was saying it tastes like sawdust. It has a great taste, but it's way different from chocolate.
Hippopotamidaes t1_iuhyvf7 wrote
It’s sort of like saying tofurkey is a substitute for turkey—it is, but it’s also markedly different.
I wouldn’t say carob to chocolate is like an impossible burger to the real thing (which is discernibly different, but not to the degree of carob to chocolate).
MustacheEmperor t1_iui1yii wrote
As much as carob is chocolate
NotThatRoanoke t1_iui91zm wrote
Just the ones on Reddit
Alexstarfire t1_iuicrfb wrote
Huh, I always thought they were bitter.
BattleBull t1_iuif93g wrote
I really like Carob, for those who don't know it has a nice taste that is like chocolate mixed with raisin.
Make cookies with both carob and chocolate chips for a bangingly tasty cookie!
BattleBull t1_iuifeu4 wrote
No one responded to you directly with the taste it seems, it taste like chocolate and raisin at the same time. Not as strong as chocolate directly, but still very tasty.
I'd use them alongside chocolate for a nice heterogeneous taste.
BattleBull t1_iuifrhq wrote
Maybe OP just has the world's best tasting sawdust and never knew it! :D
supersonicmike t1_iuihgkc wrote
Better than the salty conspiracy nuts
thealthor t1_iuimyx2 wrote
Shoot, my memory was off
>The only nut that will never produce a gold Chocobo offspring is the Carob Nut. Even when breeding two gold Chocobos with a Carob Nut, the resulting offspring will never be golden.
Though if you are going to breed a Gold from scratch you have to use Carob nuts in the process, so kind of technically still sort of correct....
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snowflake247 t1_iueyp6q wrote
It's also often used as a chocolate substitute, especially among health-food people. I've even seen it used in treats for dogs since it's not poisonous to them the way chocolate is.