Submitted by GentPc t3_yby8ho in todayilearned
These guys are assholes for publishing confidential and sensitive info.
And idiots for not thinking to check with the government that this top secret info was allowed to be published
The following is a link to a YouTube movie review by two former Green Berets. At 26:05 , they roast Navy SEAL Rob O'Neill who wrote "No Easy Day: The Firsthand Account of the Mission that Killed Osama bin Laden."
Rob O'Neil wrote a book called "The Operator"
Why are we suddenly clutching our pearls over information the government considers confidential ending up in the hands of the public, again? Are we supposed to care? It's only a problem for me if it's being sold to enemies on the sly.
We don't want operation details about how we conduct kill ops to be known because then the enemy can anticipate our tactics and kill all our guys. Info like what kind of vehicles we use, how we approach certain targets, how many people are generally on an op, the type of gear they are using, ect.
We're not supposed to conduct assassinations. Since 1976, every U.S. president has upheld Ford's prohibition on assassinations, BUT both Democrat and Republican administrations have been weaseling around this ever since.
The prohibition is against assassinations: e.g. killing legitimate political leaders.
Osama bin Laden was very clearly not a political leader and killing him did not constitute an assassination.
What's the rationale behind Gaddafi then?
We assassinated Gaddafi in your mind?
"We came, we saw, he died."
Hillary Clinton
I mean, there is a video. I dont see any US military operators
Proxy assassinations are nothing new. A bunch of failed attempts on Castro were similar for the thin veneer of plausible deniability it would have granted the US.
You are proposing that an unpopular dictator who was literally stabbed by a throng of people may have been killed secretly by proxies of the US govt?
Not following the theory. So, they could have just told about a million different people where he was located and they would have tried to kill him. But that isn't exactly assassination.
NATO intercepted a satellite phone call from Gaddafi which pinpointed his fleeing in a convoy. NATO aircraft and a US predator drone, piloted remotely from the US, fired on Gaddafi's convoy crippling it so that he could be taken out by Libyans. None of this is conspiracy; it's the official narrative.
'We found him, handcuffed him, and threw him in the tiger cage, but it was the tiger that did the deed, not us.'
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yeah and?
but the law doesn't ban proxy assassinations of the type you are describing. If it did, then we wouldn't be able to take any action that might lead to an evil dictator being murdered by his own people.
Huh, TIL.
I had no idea that the convoy was stopped by NATO aircraft.
Although, since you mentioned the official narrative...
> According to their statement, NATO was not aware at the time of the strike that Gaddafi was in the convoy. NATO stated that, in accordance with United Nations Security Council Resolution 1973, it does not target individuals, but only military assets that pose a threat. NATO later learned "from open sources and Allied intelligence" that Gaddafi was in the convoy and that the strike was likely to have contributed to his capture and therefore his death. > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_Muammar_Gaddafi
lol his own people put in in the trunk of a car and then stabbed and shot him. Watching the video of it was quite surreal.
It's a matter of professionalism and operational security when a highly selective and entrusted organization has members who keep running their mouths to the media (news and social) and selling their endorsements to make a buck.
Reddit isn’t Reddit without something to be outraged over
What!? Paid mercenaries who kill for a living are assholes ?
Nooooooooo
The US is a Federal Republic.
Republic - a state in which supreme power is held by the people and their elected representatives, and which has an elected or nominated president rather than a monarch.
How can the people hold power and in turn make informed decisions on their elected representatives in less we know what they are doing?
There is an argument to be made that the government should never have anything secret from the people. It's the same people who think that Assange, Manning, and Snowden are doing the right thing. I agree with that view.
The difference is, those people were doing what they believed were the right thing. These other cocksuckers are just trying to turn a profit.
I would pay a subscription to people tasked with informing the public on the activities of politicians in a non biased way.
They’re supposed to be called “the media.”
Profit and “the right thing” are not mutually exclusive.
Well, at least you're consistent.
Unfortunately, Pandora’s box cannot be shut. We’ve let politicians climb to a status above the laws they write.
Im convinced SEALS now exist so they can write books and distract from the real tier III operators.
Seals get the glamour, but we all know CAG and SOAR put in work.
Fool. Reckless endangerment.
who got the money then?
It was forfeited to the US government.
Hilarious.
Everyone talking shit about "Mark Owen" should listen to his interview with Shawn Ryan. Heaps of other folks, usually officers / Generals / Admirals writing books left right and center without getting clearance to do so and no dramas.
I just finished a book about Team Six and one of the things that came out was that Bissonnette and Robert O'Neil were competing to see who would fire the kill shot on OBL. Neither operator did (an unnamed shooter nicknamed 'Red' did). And the other Admirals and Generals waited until after they retired before writing their books. Bissonnette was still active duty when he wrote his.
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He had clearance he knew exactly what he was doing and why. Good that he got fucked over. Follow the goddamn rules of secrecy
I actually just finished a book about Seal Team Six and how it's become ruled not by the rules of warfare but by a protect your own mentality. Bissonnette and Robert O'Neil both wrote books about the raid (O'Neil has claimed to be the one who fired the kill shot on OBL even though pretty much everyone involved says he didn't) but O'Neil waited until he was out of the Navy before he wrote his. Bissonnette was still active duty when he wrote his.
James bissonette took all the money
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Mark Bowden, in writing his excellent book “The Finish: The Killing of Osama bin Laden,” interviewed a number of Seal Team Six members, including Bissonnette.
Bissonnette declined, and instead wrote his own book on the raid, suspiciously calling himself ‘Mark Owen’ — most likely a means to great confusion between the two books.
Bowden’s book came out first, but he issued a second edition to explain his interactions with Bissonnette and update his account of the raid based on what was written in ‘No Easy Day’