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jableshables OP t1_jcpbkqt wrote

More interesting facts about Grip from the same article:

  • Her favorite phrase was "halloa old girl". Like her novel counterpart, she may have also said "Polly, put the kettle on, we'll all have tea", "keep up your spirits", and "bow wow wow".

  • She roamed freely around the household until she repeatedly bit the children's ankles, at which point she was banished to the stables, where she slept "generally on horseback".

  • Among the items she enjoyed burying are coins, cheese, potatoes, a brush, and a hammer that was apparently stolen from a carpenter.

  • She was succeeded in the Dickens household by two other "Grips" who were regarded as impudent and less intelligent.

  • Upon her death, she was taxidermied and mounted above Dickens's desk until his death, at which point she was auctioned for 120 guineas (around $20,000 USD in today's money). After which, having had various owners, she was purchased by an American businessman who willed her to her current owner, the Free Library of Philadelphia.

Truly a remarkable bird.

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AdvonKoulthar t1_jcreuz0 wrote

If the first Grip wasn’t impudent, imagine how bad the next two were!

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jableshables OP t1_jcrm4jv wrote

Right? If attacking the dog and eating its food and biting the children is respectful, the replacements must have been pretty awful.

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80sBadGuy t1_jcrzoyx wrote

It did seem like a very intelligent animal, which makes me wonder how delicious lead paint must be.

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jableshables OP t1_jcsgr87 wrote

I've wondered this myself, as apparently it was a big problem back in the day that unattended children would just munch on paint chips and get lead poisoning.

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Brief-Secretary9387 t1_jcpdn3o wrote

ooks like Grip was a real-life pirate buried treasure and all, but instead of a parrot, Dickens had a raven to keep his secrets safe

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Icy_Hunt_3847 t1_jcq6qzn wrote

He died from eating paint, but went out with a good finish.

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ExactlySorta t1_jcpjnf2 wrote

What an amazing bird. I've seen birds that know a lot, some less, but nevermore

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muldoons_hat t1_jcpu5w0 wrote

Dad, mom said to get off the phone and take out the trash.

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School_House_Rock t1_jcqcyun wrote

My grandfather had a monkey who loved to eat toothpaste. He died from eating the tubes of paint my grandfather used for paintings that contained lead.

The monkey was not stuffed and mounted, afaIk

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baphometromance t1_jcqd2w3 wrote

Her final thoughts were probably only regrets about how she could have caused more chaos and mischief

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happyinsmallways t1_jcpgmdm wrote

My understanding is that Dickens and Poe actually met. I’ve heard two versions. One where Poe actually met Grip and one where Grip had recently died from the paint and Dickens told Poe about it.

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Important_Collar_36 t1_jcrg45o wrote

I can see Poe being sufficiently freaked out by the stuffed bird of his British equivalent that he wrote a whole creepy ass poem about it.

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happyinsmallways t1_jcrhao1 wrote

I watched an old lecture on Poe and the speaker suggests that when Poe realized that there had been a death in the Dickens family and that it was a raven he was THRILLED lol he was obsessed with death. According to this lecturer anyway, but his body of work does support that lol

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Important_Collar_36 t1_jcrimbn wrote

I was always taught that he was equal parts fascinated and repulsed by death, a truly "morbid curiosity". So he was freaked out by the bird but couldn't get it off his mind and wrote a strange, twisted horror-poem about it.

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happyinsmallways t1_jcriru1 wrote

Makes sense to me! He was surrounded by death growing up so I can imagine there were complicated feelings there

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rasticus t1_jcqhjuu wrote

I’m no expert on Corvids, but I’d have to imagine a raven eating a “pound or two” of just about anything wouldn’t be doing it any favors

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Flyingboat94 t1_jcqe1oz wrote

"I'll drink a pound or two of lead paint!" - Said the Raven nevermore

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ShakaUVM t1_jcs5r95 wrote

>"I'll drink a pound or two of lead paint!" - Said the Raven nevermore

Probably went straight to its hips

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Exact_Crazy_9263 t1_jcr9bdj wrote

I went to a petting zoo with the kids the other day. There was a big ass Raven in a cage. He was sticking a piece of cardboard out of the fence, offering it to me. I went to take it, and he dropped it with the quickness and bit me. He quickly found another piece of cardboard and did the stuck it through the fence again. Sure enough, I went for it, and he tried to bite me. They are definitely intelligent creatures.

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nurdboy42 t1_jcrawse wrote

Ravens can talk?

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jableshables OP t1_jcrlxpk wrote

Apparently. Here's a YouTube video called "Ravens can talk!" but he only says a couple syllables at a time. I bet if you dig deeper you can find evidence of longer speech.

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rodeopete3281 t1_jcqgjzr wrote

The last part would be fascinating if it weren't for the fact the "the Raven" was originally about a parrot, and Poe changed it.

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jableshables OP t1_jcqh50h wrote

Take it up with the historians, or the Wikipedia contributors, whichever's easier. Either way, I feel like that's the least interesting fact about Grip, but I had to include it

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DrSmirnoffe t1_jcrqapm wrote

Quoth the raven; "mmmm lead poisoning".

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joonip t1_jcpco1u wrote

This made my entire day

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AnimalsNotFood t1_jcqf2l4 wrote

My mind is genuinely blown. I feel like I should have known this.

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thenotoriousDEX t1_jcqwayc wrote

“Western culture has never been kind to corvids, from Poe's raven to Rossini's thieving magpie.”

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p-d-ball t1_jcrcnx7 wrote

"I will nevermore eat lead paint."

"Good bird!"

X_X

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no-kooks t1_jcsa7tm wrote

I find it ironic that the origin of “Baltimore Ravens” is likely lost on most people who are into that sort of thing.

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jableshables OP t1_jcsj5uv wrote

Not knowing about the poem is one thing, but I can forgive people not knowing it's ultimately about a sassy bird that Charles Dickens kept as a pet

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ShakaUVM t1_jcs62ci wrote

I recited The Raven to a raven in the Big Bear Zoo. It enjoyed it. Good times.

I also visited Rhode Island last year and randomly came across the house of the chick that PoE was simping for. As I walked down the cold snow lined street past the church graveyard that was literally her backyard, a huge cloud of raven's took off from the trees there and looked quite ominous in the winter night.

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ladan2189 t1_jcpnhgs wrote

I bet it was a pound or two Sterling of paint, not a pound in weight.

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rapiertwit t1_jcppjxh wrote

At that time that would have been a shitload of paint.

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jableshables OP t1_jcr7sbk wrote

I have to think 1/120th of a famous taxidermied raven could buy you more than an imperial pound of lead paint back then, yeah

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baphometromance t1_jcqddf8 wrote

I don't have a great understanding of exactly how much lead was in paint back then, but considering its density as an element, a pound or two is well within reason, if there was enough of it in the paint

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