Submitted by Khysamgathys t3_124n0s0 in todayilearned
Reply to comment by Pay08 in TIL that in Chinese Folk Religion, a mortal human being could ascend into godhood not through the decisions of a clergy/church, but by the sheer number of people who believe that their extraordinary achievements led to apotheosis, which forced Confucian/Taoists clerics to canonize a person as a God. by Khysamgathys
>Did he achieve CHIM?
Yes
>You have suffered for me to win this throne, and I see how you hate jungle. Let me show you the power of Talos Stormcrown, born of the North, where my breath is long winter. I breathe now, in royalty, and reshape this land which is mine. I do this for you, Red Legions, for I love you.
From The Many-Headed Talos
Also:
>CHIM. Those who know it can reshape the land. Witness the home of the Red King Once Jungled
From the Mythic Dawn commentaries Vol. 3
As to what the nature of godhood, Talos' own godhood, its relation with the "planets" and CHIM vs "true" godhood; well, we just don't have a simple definitive answer
Also, we don't know how or who did it for Talos to ascend
>From The Many-Headed Talos
Isn't that unofficial?
>From the Mythic Dawn commentaries Vol. 3
That's a bit more credible, provided you believe that Markan Camoran (or whatever his name was) is really thousands of years old.
>As to what the nature of godhood, Talos' own godhood, its relation with the "planets" and CHIM vs "true" godhood; well, we just don't have a simple definitive answer.
According to a book, Lorkhan/Shor/Shezarr tried to achieve CHIM but failed.
>Isn't that unofficial?
Nope, it gets quoted in Skyrim by Heimskr (the Talos priest preaching in Whiterun)
>That's a bit more credible, provided you believe that Markan Camoran (or whatever his name was) is really thousands of years old.
You don't need to take everything in the commentary as truth, but there is little reason to doubt the bit about CHIM and the transformation of Cyrodiil jungles
>Nope, it gets quoted in Skyrim by Heimskr (the Talos priest preaching in Whiterun)
A part of it does, which might be a reference than actual canon.
>You don't need to take everything in the commentary as truth, but there is little reason to doubt the bit about CHIM and the transformation of Cyrodiil jungles
Provided it isn't written by someone born hundreds of years after Tiber Septim died/became a god/whatever.
>A part of it does, which might be a reference than actual canon.
To be clear, the part that is in Skyrim is:
>Let me show you the power of Talos Stormcrown, born of the North, where my breath is long winter. I breathe now, in royalty, and reshape this land which is mine. I do this for you, Red Legions, for I love you.
Which is precisely the part about Talos having achieved CHIM
Fair. Although I still doubt that somewhat, as apparently "normal" gods can also reshape the world. Or rather the towers can, the original one (the adamantine tower?) was created by the gods.
>As to what the nature of godhood, Talos' own godhood, its relation with the "planets"
We do kind of know that. When Mannimarco becomes a god at the end of Daggerfall (via the Numidium), he does get a planet, the same as the rest of the Divines. It's not weird that Lorkhan doesn't have a planet, as he was killed. Although you could say that Mannimarco was technically dead too, being a lich.
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