[deleted] t1_je7uik4 wrote on March 30, 2023 at 1:11 AM

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Best-Two4264 t1_je7up18 wrote on March 30, 2023 at 1:12 AM

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Wonder if she brought up how Rose had more than enough room to let Jack on the floating door but chose to let him die. I mean after all that y’all had been through. Anyway hit it Celine

Viperbunny t1_je7zocx wrote on March 30, 2023 at 1:50 AM

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She did it because she wanted people to understand what they had gone through and wanted the survivors to have some way to tell their story. Instead, people labeled her a money grabbing opportunitist and it destroyed her career.

greatgildersleeve t1_je80ew8 wrote on March 30, 2023 at 1:56 AM

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Sadly a lost film.

Realistic_Truck t1_je89rao wrote on March 30, 2023 at 3:11 AM

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Replying to Best-Two4264 (#2,468,579)

Watch Titanic in widescreen, Jack gets on the door but it sinks, he was too heavy.

Doogiesham t1_je8e07r wrote on March 30, 2023 at 3:49 AM

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Replying to Best-Two4264 (#2,468,579)

What is weight

derbarkbark t1_je8jrue wrote on March 30, 2023 at 4:47 AM

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Replying to Best-Two4264 (#2,468,579)

Whoa whoa - James Cameron paid for a study to definitively prove that there was not room for Jack on that door.

YourlocalTitanicguy t1_je8nqke wrote on March 30, 2023 at 5:32 AM

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Replying to Viperbunny (#2,469,682)

Not quite, although your overall point is correct :) The only real evidence we have of her personal drama is all press, and it’s not really great source material :)

1912 society loved melodrama, and the frenzy and demand for Titanic material started to turn violent. It’s just good press for your film if you can promote an actual survivor, in actual clothes, and on top of that paint her as a tortured yet heroic figure bravely fighting her trauma for you… the viewer. This was a society obsessed with heroics. The reports of her bravery were all carefully constructed in press releases from her studio.

As for ‘ruined’ … I wouldn’t say so. The film was an international hit, with a only a few editorials grumbling about taste. Dorothy’s stepping away from film seemed to be more a choice than a failure. Her very scandalous public affair and case of manslaughter did much more to derail her than a hit movie, but she did switch to theatre and opera between the two.

Whatever happened, we don’t know, but like you said - after that film she went from being a huge movie star to …. not. There are multiple possibilities why, but our sources are all tabloid and come with the purchase of a salt mine :) the film itself though was very popular.

She went on to live, well… quite a wild life :)

typhoidtimmy t1_je8pi57 wrote on March 30, 2023 at 5:53 AM

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Replying to YourlocalTitanicguy (#2,475,064)

Read the truth about Titanic lore from a user named u/YourLocalTitanicguy

It feels like you were scolded by Sir David Attenborough for saying something slightly off about animals 😁

YourlocalTitanicguy t1_je8r3p7 wrote on March 30, 2023 at 6:13 AM

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Replying to typhoidtimmy (#2,475,440)

Absolutely no scolding here :) Titanic history is complex and bogged down by tabloid and pop-history. The gist was correct, just debatable :)

[deleted] t1_je8u8cm wrote on March 30, 2023 at 6:54 AM

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YourlocalTitanicguy t1_je8uecc wrote on March 30, 2023 at 6:56 AM

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Fun Fact!

While ‘Saved from the Titanic’ gets all the press, it was just one of three Titanic films made in 1912. The other two still survive and are on YouTube!

In Nacht und Eis

La Hantise

Now, Titanic is sort of shoehorned in to ‘La Hantise’, but (IMO) what’s most interesting about it is, due to the very limited special effects, it accidentally does a decent job portraying the sinking… all things considered of course :)