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Ignitus1 t1_j8zvy4s wrote

“Important to ecosystems” is a claim full of survivorship bias. The species damaged by beaver activity probably aren’t around anymore.

We always talk about ecosystems as if they’re meant to be static. Ecosystems, just like the living things that inhabit them, are ever-changing. They’re not meant to be static or permanent.

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Chi_ZenQuakers t1_j901n30 wrote

one man’s global warming is another’s tropic paradise.

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[deleted] t1_j90b0k7 wrote

That's cool until ocean acidification causes another mass extinction event

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doomgiver98 t1_j90cp4j wrote

Mass extinctions open up niches for other animals to fill and adapt.

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Skipaspace t1_j91ompi wrote

You are absolutely correct.

But I want to be one of thr animals that fill and adapt.

Also, humans are causing it. There will be a lot of suffering for humans and animals...we should probably try to limit as much suffering as possible and not actively contribute to it.

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Throwaway000002468 t1_j90eylw wrote

In Southern Chile, they were artificially introduced and now pose a big threat to the local biodiversity.

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[deleted] t1_j90azdb wrote

You should do some more research into this, it's genuinely interesting and I think you're drawing some incomplete conclusions

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PicardTangoAlpha t1_j91xn30 wrote

>The species damaged by beaver activity probably aren’t around anymore.

The word "probably" means you've done absolutely zero research on this and can't name any "damaged" species.

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Ignitus1 t1_j925eag wrote

It’s not hard to imagine that a species known for altering the environment would have an impact on the other species in that environment.

Besides, what sort of research would you expect to find? How is the fossil record going to show definitively that one species pushed another to extinction over a long period of time?

These interactions are inevitable in an ecological system.

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PicardTangoAlpha t1_j92om7c wrote

Since you’ve looked for none: but claim expertise let’s call that what it is.

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mrb783 t1_j91c0bu wrote

Yeah, all those species that die when they have access to fresh water in areas they otherwise wouldn't sure would have a bone to pick with beavers.

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