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GarysCrispLettuce t1_j9eua6e wrote
I'll bet a sizable % of the population prefers artificial banana flavoring to bananas themselves. I know I do.
[deleted] t1_j9eunxh wrote
Has that isoamyl acetate synthetisation happened after the gros michel went extinct? Or how does this article prove how the artificial flqvour isn’t modeled after the gros michel taste?
BernieEcclestoned t1_j9eunzu wrote
Couldn't find an image with less banana in it
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oogeej t1_j9evsio wrote
I remember not too long ago I burped through my nose after eating a banana and learned then that the 'banana flavour' wasn't so artificial.
myeff t1_j9ewbhx wrote
I have a weird thing with bananas; I can only eat them when they are mostly green, just barely turning yellow. Once they are ripe with even one tiny brown spot, they are disgusting garbage.
MuForceShoelace t1_j9ewkbr wrote
Basically the important thing to know is there is a chemical called an "ester". In around the 1950s we figured out it was really easy to make them, and that they were a big part of what we could smell and taste, so they just made every single one and then just went oe by one smelling and tasting them and just gave them names. They didn't really design or copy anything, they just took 60 chemicals and went "uhh.... grape?" "uhh... that is... uh.... fruit punch" to each because they are basically the cheapest fruit/candy flavoring or smell you can make so they want to use all of them.
MuForceShoelace t1_j9ewpb4 wrote
Allyl hexanoate Prop-2-enyl hexanoate.svg pineapple
Benzyl acetate Benzyl acetate-structure.svg pear, strawberry, jasmine
Bornyl acetate Bornyl acetate.svg pine
Butyl acetate Butylacetat.svg apple, honey
Butyl butyrate Butyl butyrate2.svg pineapple
Butyl propanoate pear drops
Ethyl acetate Ethyl acetate2.svg nail polish remover, model paint, model airplane glue
Ethyl benzoate Ethyl benzoate.svg sweet, wintergreen, fruity, medicinal, cherry, grape
Ethyl butyrate Ethyl butyrate2.svg banana, pineapple, strawberry
Ethyl hexanoate Ethyl-hexanoate.svg pineapple, waxy-green banana
Ethyl cinnamate Ethyl-cinnamate.svg cinnamon
Ethyl formate Ethyl-formate.svg lemon, rum, strawberry
Ethyl heptanoate Ethyl-heptanoate.svg apricot, cherry, grape, raspberry
Ethyl isovalerate Ethyl isovalerate structure.svg apple
Ethyl lactate Ethyl lactate.svg butter, cream
Ethyl nonanoate Ethyl-nonanoate.svg grape
Ethyl pentanoate Ethyl valerate.svg apple
Geranyl acetate Geranyl-acetate.svg geranium
Geranyl butyrate Geranyl butyrate.svg cherry
Geranyl pentanoate Geranyl pentanoate.svg apple
Isobutyl acetate Isobutyl-acetate.svg cherry, raspberry, strawberry
Isobutyl formate Isobutyl formate.svg raspberry
Isoamyl acetate Isoamyl acetate.svg pear, banana (flavoring in Pear drops)
Isopropyl acetate Isopropyl acetate.svg fruity
Linalyl acetate Linalyl acetate.svg lavender, sage
Linalyl butyrate Linalyl butyrate.svg peach
Linalyl formate Linalyl formate.svg apple, peach
Methyl acetate Methyl-acetate.svg glue
Methyl anthranilate Methyl anthranilate.svg grape, jasmine
Methyl benzoate Methyl benzoate.svg fruity, ylang ylang, feijoa
Methyl butyrate (methyl butanoate) Buttersauremethylester.svg pineapple, apple, strawberry
Methyl cinnamate Methyl cinnamate.svg strawberry
Methyl pentanoate (methyl valerate) Methyl pentanoate.svg flowery
Methyl phenylacetate Methyl phenylacetate.svg honey
Methyl salicylate (oil of wintergreen) Methyl salicylate.svg Modern root beer, wintergreen, Germolene and Ralgex ointments (UK)
Nonyl caprylate Nonyl caprylate.svg orange
Octyl acetate Octyl acetate.svg fruity-orange
Octyl butyrate Octyl butyrate.svg parsnip
Amyl acetate (pentyl acetate) Amyl acetate.svg apple, banana
Pentyl butyrate (amyl butyrate) Pentyl butyrate.svg apricot, pear, pineapple
Pentyl hexanoate (amyl caproate) Pentyl hexanoate.svg apple, pineapple
Pentyl pentanoate (amyl valerate) Pentyl pentanoate.svg apple
Propyl acetate Propyl acetate.svg pear
Propyl hexanoate Propyl-hexanoate.svg blackberry, pineapple, cheese, wine
Propyl isobutyrate Propyl isobutyrate.svg rum
Terpenyl butyrate Terpenyl butyrate.svg cherry
zippotato t1_j9f0jyb wrote
Gros Michel didn't go extinct. It was just replaced by Cavendish as the dominant cultivar on the market, and is still being produced in smaller scale.
indyaround t1_j9f0umb wrote
In school my science teacher told us artificial banana flavoring was based on a banana variety wiped out from disease. I have been telling people this for years, TIL THE TRUTH.
[deleted] t1_j9f0zb3 wrote
The gros michel is extinct, the few clones still available don’t change that, it is just a matter of time till they meet the fungus which doomed that clone.
Extinct as in not having a sustainqble population nor the ability to reproduce, clones
GarysCrispLettuce t1_j9f2x2r wrote
They are actually better for you when they are slightly green because the fiber in them is of a more superior form at that point.
zippotato t1_j9f3u51 wrote
I don't quite understand your reasoning here. It's not like there are only a handful of Gros Michel trees still standing in closed government laboratory. Farmers of multiple countries including the United States still grow and sell Gros Michel. It is now produced in smaller scale because preventing Panama disease is not economical enough for large scale farming, not because it is impossible to prevent it from getting hand on every single Gros Michel tree on the planet.
Yes, the tree is reproduced via cloning, but it goes same to Cavendish and you wouldn't say that Cavendish is already extinct.
[deleted] t1_j9f55j3 wrote
Cloning is not reproducing, that is the whole point and just because some zoos hold a few animals of a species doesn’t mean the species isn’t extinct… do you understand how evolution works, our tinkering is artificial and does not contribute, the plant is extinct
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ds_afk t1_j9fbj96 wrote
The scientist cited in the article just says it is very unlikely. Not the slam dunk I was hoping for.
>However, if you dig in to this tale a little it soon becomes clear that there is little or no verifiable source that artificial banana is based on Gros Michel. “It sounds very, very unlikely to me,” says synthetic organic chemist Derek Lowe.
EmbarrassedHelp t1_j9ff8qc wrote
> Ethyl acetate Ethyl acetate2.svg nail polish remover, model paint, model airplane glue
lol
ScrunchyButts t1_j9fibc6 wrote
They give me a stomach ache and taste bitter if even a little green. I like them good and ripe.
PokemonSapphire t1_j9fj1oc wrote
I like them overly ripe for banana bread.
Koksny t1_j9fna11 wrote
In agriculture we actually reproduce most (almost all) fruiting perennials by cloning, because every and each seed is a bit different, and will grow into its own different species. That's how evolution works, my friend.
This is the difference between cultivation and farming. For cultivation, the plants are grown from seeds into mothers, and we sell the clippings (clones) to farmers, to provide best of species. But when farming, you will not plant an orchard from seeds, instead you wil use clones.
tossinthisshit1 t1_j9fpved wrote
gros michel wasn't even wiped out. you can still get them in tropical areas. pretty sure my mother's banana tree in florida grew gros michels. you can definitely get them if you visit a tropical country and go to a farmers market
kerfitten1234 t1_j9fqyob wrote
Gros Michel aren't extinct, so you're wrong either way.
kozmonyet t1_j9fu0un wrote
That surprises me as artificial banana is one of the absolute worst of the artificial flavorings in my book--gaggingly horrible and nothing like a real banana at all.
Edit: Since it was covered in other comments--for the record, I prefer my bananas on the green side and once they are fully ripe, they are less than desirable but still edible. Once over-ripe they are downright nasty.
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opiate_lifer t1_j9g23o5 wrote
Did you know you can boil or fry really green bananas(like still rock hard) and they have the consistency and flavour of a root starch like potatoes? They are pretty good just mashed with a bit of salt and cayenne.
vibrant_crab t1_j9g2ihx wrote
It tastes like shit to me.
ColonelKasteen t1_j9g56wq wrote
Ah, my favorite fruits.
Worldwideimp t1_j9gawt1 wrote
Fyi, this chemical is stupid volatile. When used as a solvent you will find yourself suffocating with the cloying scent of banana.
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kerfitten1234 t1_j9h4bkq wrote
God idiots like you are so annoying.
StudentMed t1_j9h6i8j wrote
You sure that isn't plantains?
opiate_lifer t1_j9h90ab wrote
Plantains too! But green bananas are perfectly edible when cooked.
StudentMed t1_j9hc3jh wrote
Sounds like something someone does once or twice but then never again.
opiate_lifer t1_j9hd0qk wrote
I have eaten them regularly when they were available just because could get them super cheap and I was sick of potatoes. I did not bother to peel them before cooking, they come out of the peel easily once boiled. I have never eaten the peel.
The bananas themselves once boiled and peeled have the texture and taste comparable to potatoes or another savoury root starch.
Its not something I'd pay top dollar for or seek out, but it was fine for adding some variety to my carbs and cheap so why not.
InncnceDstryr t1_j9hlfb9 wrote
Do they legit taste like artificial banana?
I can totally believe it that they could. I went to Tenerife once and they grow bananas there. The local bananas were amazing. The best, sweetest fullest tasting bananas I’ve ever had.
lolokaydudewhatever t1_j9i3kgx wrote
>The best, sweetest fullest tasting bananas I’ve ever had.
Ill give you a sweet full tasting banana
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Potatoswatter t1_j9j29xm wrote
What was debunked here? Isoamyl acetate isn’t naturally derived from old stocks of extinct bananas?
usmcnick0311Sgt t1_j9jby2n wrote
More people will lick another human's anus than eat a banana with a brown spot.
CatDogBoogie t1_j9n9jif wrote
Sorry son. I'll have to take it back from you mother first.
Tell her I'll be a little late tonight. I have overtime at work.
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