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Nixon4Prez t1_ja23j2z wrote

JRR Tolkien was primarily interested in linguistics - what a lot of people don't realize is that the entire world of the Lord of the Rings and the entire Tolkien canon originated as a setting for his invented languages. Elvish came first, the whole Tolkienverse came about as a setting for it.

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frostanon t1_ja27wt0 wrote

Yeah he invented a language, but he also knew language can't exist without culture/history/mythology so he started working on that.

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Admetus t1_ja2vzff wrote

He realised that language is so closely related to those things he basically developed his own Norse/Celtic epic to carry his invented language!

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ThePrussianGrippe t1_ja3xddy wrote

And to make up for the fact there wasn’t much in the way of surviving Anglo myths since the saxons introduced themselves on the island.

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E_Snap t1_ja2p3t2 wrote

That dingus went about it all backwards, what was he thinking?

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Wurm42 t1_ja2sk5t wrote

"I need to do something SERIOUSLY escapist if I'm going to stay sane in the trenches of Flanders."

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Card_Zero t1_ja369xt wrote

For a certain value of sane.

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Wurm42 t1_ja3a7t1 wrote

Granted, it took a certain pre-existing level of obsessive nerdiness to set out to create an elvish language from scratch in a bomb shelter.

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imapassenger1 t1_ja2976y wrote

Interesting to look at a map of Iceland and some of the place names look like they belong in his books. Tolkien was a big fan of Old Norse and Icelandic.

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Hambredd t1_ja2gp57 wrote

I mean pretty famously the names of the dwarves in The Hobbit are just straight up ripped from the poetic edda.

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tsaimaitreya t1_ja2hkx6 wrote

Tolkien was also deeply interested in mythology and fairy tales, it's not just linguistics

He started working on the silmarillion as early as during WWI

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MoreGull t1_ja31ifv wrote

The OG "World Builder". Dude literally invented a mythology just to satisfy his linguistic interests.

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Emilayday t1_ja3xjzv wrote

This is the first thing I've ever read that makes me want to read all his LOTR books now!! That's so cool!

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HouseAtomic t1_ja3wvmu wrote

The Neal Stephenson book Reamde centers around a MMOG that was invented then had an entire 100% realistic planetary geology created. The players having realistic mining, water flows & mountain ranges were important to the development team.

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LOHare t1_ja6c8i0 wrote

Even the creation story of Tolkienverse is testament to that. Arda was sung into existence. Music was first, then song, and the song was given shape as the physical universe.

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EvilioMTE t1_ja6gz51 wrote

>what a lot of people don't realize

I mean that's fairly well known.

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Nixon4Prez t1_ja6v6zv wrote

Fairly well known among fans of Tolkien, but not so much among the general public

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