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Feellikedancing t1_j1l7x6k wrote

Depending on where you live, banks will often give you back the money you lost to a scammer, especially if you follow up the loss with a police report. Worth enquiring about.

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Scoach3 t1_j1lc3x8 wrote

I've worked for 3 banks and 2 investments firms, scams are something you will almost never get back because they would have to give you their money to replace it and you gave away everything they needed to get to it.

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Oddballxx124 OP t1_j1ldnz1 wrote

Yeah that's fair. I'm glad the scammers didn't get everything at least

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Duality26 t1_j1nvyj3 wrote

This is wrong. Recent CFPB guidance and regulation e guidelines explicitly state that being the victim of a an account takeover is grounds for the transaction to be covered under the definition of an error, if the transaction is POS or ACH.

Liability for wires is different, however, as they are not covered under Reg e.

Anybody with Bank experience should note the criticality of regulatory definitions when trying to provide help.

Edit: OP is in Austraila, Reg E doesn't apply. Oof.

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WilliamMinorsWords t1_j1l9wvj wrote

No they won't. I've never heard of a bank that will do that. You lose the money, that's on you

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DashRift t1_j1le7qb wrote

not entirely true

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Agile-Bed7687 t1_j1mv2g0 wrote

Yeah it is, where would the money come from? They would have to recover it because they aren’t going to comp you their own money. In the Case of a fraudulent charge the bank can recover from visa MasterCard etc through their insurance programs but a scam is not the same as fraud. When you give away access you give away your rights.

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Noidremained t1_j1nmigl wrote

>they aren’t going to comp you their own money.

actually they will. I guess they believe that their reputation is more important than a small amount of money

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Agile-Bed7687 t1_j1nosjq wrote

Actually after working for 2 investment firms and 2 multinational banks and 1 credit union they won’t. Next time work in the industry before you speak

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Duality26 t1_j1nxz3i wrote

In the US, EFTs initiated as a result of an account takeover are explicitly covered under Regulation E. The CFPB has published guidance and made it very clear these types of transactions are covered.

"4. Does an EFT initiated by a fraudster using stolen credentials meet the Regulation E definition of an unauthorized EFT?

Yes. As discussed in Electronic Fund Transfers Error Resolution: Unauthorized EFT Question 1, Regulation E defines an unauthorized EFT as a transfer from a consumer’s account initiated by a person other than the consumer without actual authority to initiate the transfer and from which the consumer receives no benefit. 12 CFR 1005.2(m)."

OP is in Austrailia so this is moot; however, if your experience in the financial industry is in the states, you are confidently incorrect.

However, other scams not involving an account takeover may not fall under the purview of Reg E, such as buying a gift card for the scammer; or, p2p transaction, which the CFPB will likely push consumer friendly guidance for in the next few years.

Source: I'm a certified regulatory compliance manager with 15 years banking experience.

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Oddballxx124 OP t1_j1ldzmz wrote

Yeah I didn't think that they would. I'm just glad I didn't lose everything lol

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Noidremained t1_j1nmcyb wrote

I've heard of plenty of them, unfortunately

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WilliamMinorsWords t1_j1nvndn wrote

Well, I'm actually glad to hear that there are banks or credit unions who will refund the money of their customers who get scammed. I think that's great.

I follow a lot of these scams, and usually the banks are like, "tough luck." So I'm really glad to hear there are some who don't say that.

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Oddballxx124 OP t1_j1l9iam wrote

I live in Australia
Me and my parents are planning to start inquiring about this soon. I think my mum has already made a report about it too

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OCDKIT t1_j1m26if wrote

My partner fell for a similar scam earlier this year. You won't see the money again.

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