Plenty_Intention1991 t1_ixzg8k2 wrote on November 27, 2022 at 4:30 PM

Reply to comment by Harry_Gorilla in TIFU by saying 'Men are born drivers' infront of my two senior female co-workers. TL;DR by ioncarelol

This is the wrong take and I’m afraid your logic is a bit warped. Talking about rain in the summer isn’t the same thing. It’s fine to say you like something if that’s your preference but Summer isn’t the same qualifier as driver. For example he could have even said “I like males in the Summer” and there would be no issue, but if he says “I like male doctors” the qualifier of a specific job or task is where it becomes a problem.

Harry_Gorilla t1_iy1klt9 wrote on November 28, 2022 at 1:19 AM

From a purely logical stand point: no. But we don’t treat gender logically, which was more my point. I wasn’t equating summer to anything, but illustrating that OP’s audience had only heard the opposite of what he said. The important/relevant bit was inferring something about the opposite of what was actually said, as OP’s audience appears to have done.

It’s super weird that it’s fine to jump to this conclusion, that someone intended the contra positive of what they said, if a statement is about or includes a group of people, but not any other time

Plenty_Intention1991 t1_iy5htsz wrote on November 28, 2022 at 10:08 PM

But every statement of opinion is inherently two sided don’t you think? By saying that you are in favor of anything you’re also saying that you aren’t necessarily in favor of something else. For example if you loved every flavor of ice cream then you’re unlikely to say unprompted that you like rocky road ice cream. Because there would be no point in singling out that flavor if you thought they were all equal. Just like if you thought all humans were born with an innate ability to drive then you wouldn’t specify men. I understand that in this case he was just using a saying that he’s probably heard somewhere but if someone hasn’t heard that saying before then they might be looking at it from a different perspective and to them it sounds biased or prejudicial.