Submitted by blackcatonacid t3_y99rng in tifu
[deleted] t1_it5bvxf wrote
[deleted]
slaughterpuss25 t1_it6ypt8 wrote
Is that large of a dose really considered that extreme? I once ate that much on accident because my stupid ass got stoned and forgot I had bought more shrooms than usual and tried to eat the whole bag in one sitting. Only realized when I had made it through most of the bag. Tried to throw up to reduce the consequences of my mistake a bit. Ended up curled up naked in a ball in bed seeing all of human history repeat itself countless times and eventually ending up in the nexus of the universe, being torn apart on the molecular level by gods and entities beyond our understanding. Eventually "I" (by this point the concept of self wasnt really there anymore) realized the only way to escape the situation is to accept that it's happening and I came out of the trip a much less stressed out person over things I cannot control.
shorterthanyou15 t1_it76ldb wrote
Obviously it's extreme, how can you possibly explain that experience you had and not see that it's extreme?
slaughterpuss25 t1_it76rs6 wrote
That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying that I didn't realize that dose was considered the kind of thing that destroyed people. I've always thought of myself as a bit of a lightweight when it came to psychedelics.
shorterthanyou15 t1_it76wlx wrote
From my experience that absolutely is an insane amount to take. The most I've ever seen someone do IRL is 6g and that was a lot for him. I personally have never gone higher than 3 and have found that overwhelming at times.
slaughterpuss25 t1_it77vkd wrote
So it's not just me. I just assumed I was bitch made when it came to them. I started out taking 3.5g I was told that was a standard dose for if I wanted to properly trip. So that's what I did. Usually that was all I would take and I'd have a very intense experience and a great time, but I ended up getting 8 grams and fucked up and forgot that I'd bought extra this time. I didn't eat the entire bag but I got pretty close, ended up throwing up and panicking when I realized. Probably why the trip was so dark at first.
SandyBeaverTeeth t1_it8m3vc wrote
3.5 is a strong dose that will definitely make you "properly trip", as in it is going to be pretty intense. Going over that starts to chance some next level shit that you 'd better be ready for. I prefer more like 2g for a nice, mellow experience where I still retain my sense of self, functionality, all that good stuff.
slaughterpuss25 t1_it8nxgy wrote
I've never actually tried a lower dose, what's it like?
thatsoundthough t1_it7bghb wrote
Yeah, panic at the start can spiral the experience into negativland a bit, for sure. 3.5g is a very solid trip for most folks.
slaughterpuss25 t1_it9q6ek wrote
The last time I tripped I had 3.5 g. I planned everything out, had on chill music and just colored and had the best time. Cried tears of joy at one point because everything was so beautiful. Felt like everything was going to be okay
thatsoundthough t1_itadko4 wrote
With 1.5-2 g, I just want to roll around in the grass laughing while soaking in the beauty of the clouds and air :)
slaughterpuss25 t1_itag2z7 wrote
That sounds like a really good time. Maybe I'll give a lower dose a shot at some point
lutzskater t1_it8q02e wrote
Anything over 5 grams is considered a "heroic dose" generally. I've done it myself when I was younger a couple times and had a similar experience as you, but then I continued seeking that same experience and after a few more times it ended similarly to OPs story. Now I can't even do mushrooms in my house without intense paranoia.
An analogy Ive found to hold true is, If you think of your mind as a rubber band, you can continue stretching it out as much as you want, but it wont always form back to it's original shape after a while.
Mrs_Peabody t1_it7srf9 wrote
I’ve taken 7g once, intending to go for a walk in the woods, but all my husband and I were capable of was moaning and sensual writhing in bed with closed eyes. Very intense, but because we’re familiar with the effects of psychedelics it didn’t freak us out. After the intense peak (maybe a couple hours after), we did leave the bed and continued to have a beautiful trip. It’s not an amount I’d take and expect to do any kind of activity or social thing for sure. I may or may not take that much again.
thatsoundthough t1_it935z2 wrote
Yeah, those doses are not to be trifled with.
CashAndBrass t1_it8mhyd wrote
I love that I know exactly what “machine elves” means even though I’ve never been able to articulate it my self! My only ever attempt was along the lines of “so many gears, so many cogs, so many gnomes.”
phigene t1_it62q18 wrote
How tf do you know about the machine elves?!!?!?!?!?!
3bag t1_it6o1xe wrote
Someone I know had a NDE and saw the machine elves.
Edit: He was terrified and is now afraid of death. Most NDE's experience lightness, tunnel, euphoria etc.
thatsoundthough t1_it7bxie wrote
My ego death experiences included terror as everything slipped away, elation as reality began to return and I remembered that I was human and this was just an exploratory trip, and then a strong sense of having made peace with existence. Fear of death was just a fleeting fear.
[deleted] t1_it7bmdo wrote
[deleted]
blackcatonacid OP t1_it5cbzr wrote
I didn't reach ego death with that does even though I hoped too, it was definitely still beneficial and educational experience. Helped reach important conclusions and make changes I needed in life.
The weird thing is that this trip was so much more extreme, with just poor 3 grams...
thatsoundthough t1_it5cxoq wrote
Mushroom strength can vary notably, depending on the strain and the growing situation. I've had ego death around 3 grams, but it lasted much longer at 4.5 g + MAOI (for the latter, I did vomit while passing in/out) for an hour. If your experience was legit just with natural mushrooms then I'd expect this batch was especially strong and whatever you took 6-7 g of was especially weak. Maybe?
chonk_fox89 t1_it8brrk wrote
Not really familiar with shrooms, what's ego death?
SandyBeaverTeeth t1_it8mkcx wrote
You lose your sense of self. The boundaries between "you" and "the world" fall away and you feel deep connection with everything around you. It's a main feature of psychedelics, and at any dose it is where the "one with the universe" feeling people describe comes from. "Ego death" happens at high enough doses where you *truly* lose the concept of "me" and cannot access your rational mind that knows you are an individual human and all that. You experience "oneness" in a very real and authentic way, and that can be extremely difficult and disturbing for some people depending on how it manifests for them in their trip. It can also be a profoundly beautiful experience that alters you for the better.
This is why setting up your trip is so important for success if you intend to take a larger dose, and your mental state/unresolved issues/whatever can surface in very extreme ways during this if you have not been caring for them or considering them when entering the trip. The OP's description of a trip that kept coming back to themes of suicide, and ultimately ended with a fixation on suicide while losing most knowledge of himself is exactly what I would expect here. It is a really good example of how someone who is dealing with depression should be extremely cautious about self-medicating with psychedelics. I don't know that OP or their GF is depressed, but it sure sounds like one or both of them might be. There's so much out there about LSD/shrooms/MDMA curing depression, but people don't realize those studies that have shown promising results are all done in a highly controlled manner guided by mental health professionals. Taking random shrooms with your buddies or partner or whatever is not the same thing.
Sorry, that turned into a rant...
chonk_fox89 t1_ita0oyr wrote
No I appreciate it! I've been considering trying some shrooms to help depression and chronic pain so I'm gathering info and really appreciate learning fist hand from others!
throwaway_nowgoaway t1_it5pcw0 wrote
Wow, maoi experience sounds kind of scary
thatsoundthough t1_it5vcu6 wrote
It was no good, but also amazing. The Chemical Brothers' Dig Your Own Hole is forever burned into my memory...one of the few things I remember before everything went atomic. Was giggly when the album started, auditory hallucinations kicked in with "It Doesn't Matter," and I don't remember the album ending because I was slumped over the toilet, retching and passing out. The MAOI was definitely not needed.
Ragnarotico t1_it5hhgd wrote
>I find myself with 0 memory about who I got here , who is my girlfriend, where am I, why am I drugged, how the fuck I speak Spanish.. complete blackout.
This kind of sounds like ego death. Did you even know your own name at that point?
blackcatonacid OP t1_it5lamq wrote
I knew who I am , that what made it even more confusing.. I couldn't remember the last year of my life or so... My last memory was at my home country at my old apartment.. I freaked out trying to understand how I got here All I could think is how the hell did I fucked up so bad to get into this situation
noahB53 t1_it6alg4 wrote
Naw that’s not ego death. When it happens you will know without a doubt
noahB53 t1_it6ai6s wrote
I think you may have been laced or there was one bad shroom in the batch
wnfakind t1_it8gav9 wrote
Machine elves.. have you even done shrooms bud?
thatsoundthough t1_it92kz4 wrote
hehe...um...yeah. You should read up on tryptamines.
wnfakind t1_ita6526 wrote
Umm hehe I think you’re thinking of dmt child
thatsoundthough t1_itacxm7 wrote
Definitely not limited to DMT, dude. Learn your chemistry and about the wide array of tryptamines through which many have encountered these types of entities. Perhaps you've not encountered them, but there are plenty of published reports. Do you realize that psilocin is a tryptamine? It's 4-HO-DMT. Oh, and BLESS YOUR HEART, but I'm Gen X.
wnfakind t1_ite7g0r wrote
Ok man thanks for your input, you’ve done your time but still reading to much shit that’s been put in your head to affect your trips.. I congratulate you. To bad all you kids never experienced it before reading about it.. let me guess you got to meet Terrance McKenna in Hawaii too before he passed?
Edit: nice delete smart guy stop spreading stupid joe rogan shit just like all you twats here
thatsoundthough t1_ite9bhw wrote
Hahaha!
Viewing a single comment thread. View all comments