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kingdazy t1_j65mboz wrote

this show is fucking dope. feels like the spiritual successor to 28 days later.

the walking dead became a total shitfest with episodes like daryl fixing a bike and carol catching a rat while making soup -- absolute garbage. seasons centered around faction vs faction conflicts. tons of filler, boring interpersonal dramas, corny character development expositions. the show isn't even about zombies or surviving the apocalypse anymore, and i'm not sure it ever was. I regularly found myself FFing through whole minutes of dialog at a time, and missing nothing.

this show is absolutely NOT trying to be that. this is a far more realistic and personalized approach to the zombie apocalypse concept, focusing primarily on the survival aspect instead of facilitating mediocre dramas.

the cinematography is phenomenal. some really great long takes. writing is excellent, especially notably in some long sequences without dialogue that still manage to be intensely suspenseful and entertaining.

the acting is superb (in most places), and this is especially noticeable with the korean girl. we're not given any real subtitles for her dialogue, which in itself is a bold move. this forces her character to communicate with tone of voice, body language, and emotional responses. as a result youre given an experience similar to how the other characters (who dont speak her language) interact with her. i absolutely love this idea.

the editing is great, i love the thematic "chapters" each episode is divided into. it gives them a format allowing better jumps between characters and sequences without it being especially jarring.

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pickledsoylentgreen OP t1_j65nje5 wrote

I actually really enjoyed the decision to forgoe the subtitles, it helped make it feel much more realistic. The blond woman who was the lead was not good at all though, so it may have skewed my view of the acting.

The editing is great and I really enjoyed their choice of color saturation as well. It certainly isn't all bad.

I don't know about the realistic approach, I didn't get that. I found it more of a "Fast and Furious" approach. The decisions of the characters were catered towards keeping the action moving. Many of the choices the characters made were unnecessarily idiotic. I get that they are meant to be frazzled and that would be realistic and all, but the music room scene, the corridor scene with the military officers and the scene in season two where they simply circle around the zombie, with no cover what so ever, and the zombie loses their scent right in the middle of the snow? They were too much.

Also, I'm a big fan of beautiful cinematography and this series went out of their way to make sure there weren't any extended, beautiful shots. This does get better in season 2 though.

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kingdazy t1_j65uvha wrote

To be fair, I was surprised at it's high ratings, because it's really not "prestige TV" or anything. It is low budget, and you're right about handheld stuff not being something a lot of people like. I think it might have been literal TWD Fatigue Syndrome. "Holy fuck, a zombie show that has, get this, lots of zombies and not mostly talking!"

And yeah, the cinematography style is not for everyone. I can relate to wanting quiet, still, expansive shots with depth. There was nothing still or quiet in the whole show. But if memory serves me, it's packed with long single takes of action, which tickles me in a completely different way.

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pickledsoylentgreen OP t1_j65xsya wrote

You know, part of it could be that I never got into The Walking Dead either, so I had no fatigue from it. I made it to the second season of TWD and realized it was going to be a soap opera with zombies, and I was out. I'm also not a huge action movie guy, so the continuous action shots got old really fast.

Now, I'm aware that this is about to be one of the most pretentious-sounding things I've ever posted, but......

I personally feel like a long, beautifully framed shot (like the final scene of Lady Vengeance) is way more impactful than the jotting, go-pro style.

Also, I'm personally a big fan of Argento, which is 99% style, 1% substance, so that shows where my priorities lie.

I appreciate the response, though. I enjoy hearing other people's perspectives.

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kingdazy t1_j65zg7b wrote

While I am rarely able to enjoy an argento/giallo styled film all the way through, all of my cinematography/director/film buddies love that shit. (though, I do love Lady Vengeance, and generally South Korean cinema)

But! As far as a well framed, long, still shot goes? I can totally get that. As an example: one of my favorite parts of one of my favorite films is the chapter breaks in Breaking The Waves by Lars Von Trier, done as a counterpoint to the Dogme 95-handheld style of the rest of the film. Quiet, still, expansive, landscapes, slight movement in the weather. Yum.

But again, I can also appreciate a long, uncut shot of action. Long single takes (esp moving from one environment to another, the more the better) are an art form of their own.

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pickledsoylentgreen OP t1_j660gv6 wrote

I totally get not liking giallo, haha. Nah, thanks for taking the time to explain why you dig it. I can also acknowledge that there is a ton of talent involved in those action shots, from all parties. It just doesn't do it for me personally.

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kingdazy t1_j66267e wrote

Love it when a reddit discussion turns into "hey, I can respect that opinion", "me too, have a nice day" haha

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