DrHalibutMD t1_j6kbmgg wrote on January 30, 2023 at 10:54 PM

Reply to comment by WeDriftEternal in The Leftovers, season 2, episode 8, is the weirdest hour of television I have EVER watched. That is all. by TimeTraveler3056

So was Kevin really in another world where he was the President and/or his identical twin brother? ...and if he told the story to you would you be able to believe him? That's the question to me, more than whether Nora is lying or not.

Her story may be a lie but how can Kevin think that given what he's experienced? Heck everyone in the world has experienced the craziness of the original disappearance how can you discount her story?

Was she lying? Telling the truth? Maybe, either way who am I to judge her experience.

WeDriftEternal t1_j6kby1b wrote on January 30, 2023 at 10:56 PM

Kevin being president was a different episode. Everything in book of Nora was real. The Kevin episode probably isn’t real of course. But Noras is. There is a long standing thing about Nora not being able to lie… that is prior to the book of Nora where she gains the ability to. But she may or may not have decided to use it. She can lie now, but will she?

SoulCruizer t1_j6lwtu0 wrote on January 31, 2023 at 6:37 AM

The stuff Kevin goes through is absolutely real. There’s characters and things we see in it that just don’t make sense why they’d be there if he was somehow dreaming.

WeDriftEternal t1_j6lynny wrote on January 31, 2023 at 6:59 AM

Well, there was a way to prove his identity <flop>

VitaminTea t1_j6ly4id wrote on January 31, 2023 at 6:52 AM

Define "real"

SoulCruizer t1_j6m1lfm wrote on January 31, 2023 at 7:37 AM

In the sense that it did happen and there were higher powers at play.

VitaminTea t1_j6m20gl wrote on January 31, 2023 at 7:42 AM

Happened where though? In his head? In an alternate dimension? Purgatory? The same "other side" that the people (and Nora) went to? Was he alive and teleported or dead and there?

I just think "real" is too finite a concept. Of course it did happen (we watched it!) but I don't know that it was real.

SoulCruizer t1_j6m60ij wrote on January 31, 2023 at 8:37 AM

Let the mystery be. We don’t get the logistics of how it works but it was absolutely real. Maybe you’re having a different conversation here. My point is that whatever happened isn’t some figment or dream where “it was all in is head” or doesn’t have some tangibility. When he died he was very much transported somewhere and this same place is where the guy who says he’s god was also transported and there’s actually other characters that mention the place. Who knows what it truly is but it very much is real.